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GUITAR OVERDRIVE ON BASS ?

#61
string4madness said:
some guitar dist/overdrive have low eq knob....

will it boost the lows that are lost in the process ?
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Chiming in on gutair od's:
Been on a quest for an OD as well. I have a Digitech "Badder" Monkey modded for bass. Has good tone controls and dynamic od. This one does retain most of the lows and does a good job with the OD. Been in the rack for a while and really like it. Also been working on a Boss BD-2 and just about got it were I like it. Quite a few changes of components - but they are cheap.

Digitech Bass Driver:
This is much more of the distortion flavor or should say flavors. Like this pedal as well - but not for OD.

Boss OD-3: Stock form it got no lovin from me. After looking at a few mods - it may have potential if you work on the circuit.

Happy days,
David
 
#62
string4madness said:
so besides the low eq, the mid are important to shape the drive/dist.. thanks bro.

do you know the exact frequency (the freq that ussually applied) that the low, mid and high knob applies?
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In my opinion, I think it varies from pedal series to pedal series, because some distortion pedals have where set the cut off between low and high, if it's a two way EQ.

But I Think you're better off with a Mid knob, there's more to a shaping option. What a Cutoff knob does is determines the line between lows and highs (Meaning where adjustments for either start and end), but if you want something more versatile, you'd want a knob for Mid's...
 
#63
I actually really like teh sound of my buddys Ibanez DS7 distortion on bass, blended with my clean signal. I messed around when recording and used the paralell out on my hartke bass attack pedal and ran that signal through the DS7 and then the output of the hartke and the output of the ds7 into 2 inputs into protools. and i liked the sound of it, so im actually planning on getting a Boss LS2 so i can do the same thing live, but with one input on my amp.
 
#64
I have a couple guitar overdrives on my board now: an old MXR Overdrive (circa 1982) that I use in a Barge VB Jr for grit, and a Sans Amp Classic (early '90s) that's in the loop of a Barge VFB as part of my synth chain (Boss SYB-5-->Sans Amp-->Maxom AF-9).

The Sans Amp Classic, although a little bottom-shy, is pretty flexible, which makes it great in a synth loop. The MXR, like many other guitar grit pedals that shed significant low end, sounds massive w/ the Barge, even though I wouldn't use it outside of a blend loop.

That said, I have a Hematoma coming to replace the MXR/Barge combo.
 
#65
I like a little natural-sounding overdrive on the high end, which I've achieved nicely by using a 50-watt Vox Valvetronix guitar combo... I have the highs and high mids on my Markbass LMII turned down to about 9 o'clock, and I'm running a cable from the effects send to the input of the Vox amp, which I have the lows turned down all the way on. I'm very happy with the overdrive it gives me, much more so than what my Behringer Bass OD pedal can do. I still use the Behringer pedal on a very mild setting as more of a signal boost than a drive pedal, except for one song where I turn up the mix knob all the way for an more-aggressive sound. But most of the time, I rely on the Vox alone for OD purposes, even though it's a guitar amp...
 
#66
Koeda said:
Chiming in on gutair od's:
Been on a quest for an OD as well. I have a Digitech "Badder" Monkey modded for bass. Has good tone controls and dynamic od. This one does retain most of the lows and does a good job with the OD. Been in the rack for a while and really like it. Also been working on a Boss BD-2 and just about got it were I like it. Quite a few changes of components - but they are cheap.

Digitech Bass Driver:
This is much more of the distortion flavor or should say flavors. Like this pedal as well - but not for OD.

Boss OD-3: Stock form it got no lovin from me. After looking at a few mods - it may have potential if you work on the circuit.

Happy days,
David
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lots of modification to get the right one
:hmm: :hmm:

what do you mean by not using digitech bass driver as an OD ?
 
#67
Noosh said:
I actually really like teh sound of my buddys Ibanez DS7 distortion on bass, blended with my clean signal. I messed around when recording and used the paralell out on my hartke bass attack pedal and ran that signal through the DS7 and then the output of the hartke and the output of the ds7 into 2 inputs into protools. and i liked the sound of it, so im actually planning on getting a Boss LS2 so i can do the same thing live, but with one input on my amp.
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i tried IBANEZ DS7.. i think , it missing too much Lows..
but never tried to blend it / using 2 channels
 
#68
lunarpollen said:
I like a little natural-sounding overdrive on the high end, which I've achieved nicely by using a 50-watt Vox Valvetronix guitar combo... I have the highs and high mids on my Markbass LMII turned down to about 9 o'clock, and I'm running a cable from the effects send to the input of the Vox amp, which I have the lows turned down all the way on. I'm very happy with the overdrive it gives me, much more so than what my Behringer Bass OD pedal can do. I still use the Behringer pedal on a very mild setting as more of a signal boost than a drive pedal, except for one song where I turn up the mix knob all the way for an more-aggressive sound. But most of the time, I rely on the Vox alone for OD purposes, even though it's a guitar amp...
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using a guitar amp to get a taste of overdrive. it never occurs in mind..

but it will trouble me to perform live.
 
#69
A pice of history: Chris Squire, a pioneer in overdriven bass sounds (Check out Yes' "Heart of the Sunshine" or "Close to the Edge") had no guitar pedal to do it, but a mix of clean bass amp and overdriven guitar amp, by splitting the signal of his Rickenbaker 4001. A good crossover, nowadays, is very accessible, and even a small, 30 watt guitar combo has a decent OD channel (think Marshal). even a cheap behringer bass chorus, or digital delay, has two outputs: you don't have to use the effect at all, but in bypass it should be able to throw two signals. You'll need one dual output pedal and a guitar amp. The guitar amp doesn't need to be a big amp, remember: high frequencies are more audible at lower power requirements than low ones. Greetings!
 
#70
CamiloDíaz;6608050 said:
A pice of history: Chris Squire, a pioneer in overdriven bass sounds (Check out Yes' "Heart of the Sunshine" or "Close to the Edge") had no guitar pedal to do it, but a mix of clean bass amp and overdriven guitar amp, by splitting the signal of his Rickenbaker 4001. A good crossover, nowadays, is very accessible, and even a small, 30 watt guitar combo has a decent OD channel (think Marshal). even a cheap behringer bass chorus, or digital delay, has two outputs: you don't have to use the effect at all, but in bypass it should be able to throw two signals. You'll need one dual output pedal and a guitar amp. The guitar amp doesn't need to be a big amp, remember: high frequencies are more audible at lower power requirements than low ones. Greetings!
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thanks alot bro.
 
#71
string4madness said:
lots of modification to get the right one
:hmm: :hmm:

what do you mean by not using digitech bass driver as an OD ?
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Mods - Yes = good thing. Lows can be filtered out of the guitar pedals and emphasize highs. On the Blues Driver - which I am liking more and more as I work on it. Lowered the cutoff freq into the distortion circuit. Eliminated the high pass filter, lowered the cutoff freq on the low pass filter. Lowered the Q on the tone control. Changed the diodes for more 'tube-y' od type harmonics.

The 'Badder' Monkey is sweet and can be picked up modded for bass already on da 'bay. It is not expensive and is a great place to start.

Digitech Bass Driver - use as a distortion sound. More of the fuzz than od. Very Rat like for bass if set correct.

David
 
#72
Koeda said:
Mods - Yes = good thing. Lows can be filtered out of the guitar pedals and emphasize highs. On the Blues Driver - which I am liking more and more as I work on it. Lowered the cutoff freq into the distortion circuit. Eliminated the high pass filter, lowered the cutoff freq on the low pass filter. Lowered the Q on the tone control. Changed the diodes for more 'tube-y' od type harmonics.

The 'Badder' Monkey is sweet and can be picked up modded for bass already on da 'bay. It is not expensive and is a great place to start.

Digitech Bass Driver - use as a distortion sound. More of the fuzz than od. Very Rat like for bass if set correct.

David
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tone control cuts/boosts high freq (correct me if i'm wrong)

so lowered the Q will make it works for a lower freq ? so it will cuts/boosts low feq ?
 
#76
For a two-knob overdrive pedal the DOD 250 is pretty good with lows, I think! Gets a little iffy on the low notes, but the basic sound of it is very nice.

BTW there's only one pedal on my board that is specifically marketed for bass. Try lots of pedals and don't pay attention to marketing because sometimes pedalmakers don't realize when they've made something bass-friendly.
 
#79
dancehallclasher said:
For a two-knob overdrive pedal the DOD 250 is pretty good with lows, I think! Gets a little iffy on the low notes, but the basic sound of it is very nice.

BTW there's only one pedal on my board that is specifically marketed for bass. Try lots of pedals and don't pay attention to marketing because sometimes pedalmakers don't realize when they've made something bass-friendly.
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only one ?
 
#80
dancehallclasher said:
For a two-knob overdrive pedal the DOD 250 is pretty good with lows, I think! Gets a little iffy on the low notes, but the basic sound of it is very nice.

BTW there's only one pedal on my board that is specifically marketed for bass. Try lots of pedals and don't pay attention to marketing because sometimes pedalmakers don't realize when they've made something bass-friendly.
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do you have any experience with this pedal? do you use it?
 

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