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Has anyone bought and NOT liked a Sadowsky??

Thx guys. And the other thing is... my only amp is a 100 watt ampeg combo. Do I buy a high end bass or a bass rig next. I'm a freshman in high school and plan on going to a music school, berklee. My dad said I should get the bass cuz that's what would pay off more than the amp, that the bass would get more use for me. What do u guys say. And my dad is an ex-drummer.
 
Thx guys. And the other thing is... my only amp is a 100 watt ampeg combo. Do I buy a high end bass or a bass rig next. I'm a freshman in high school and plan on going to a music school, berklee. My dad said I should get the bass cuz that's what would pay off more than the amp, that the bass would get more use for me. What do u guys say. And my dad is an ex-drummer.

Depends on what your budget/finances are. You could get both.
 
Okay. Your bar is set way too low.
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Edit: I'll explain for those who might not have gotten the joke. If carrying a Mastercard makes you a Master, according to my wallet I'm not only a master but also a train conductor* who can travel unencumbered** through most countries.
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*American Express
**with a Visa

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Really fixed it for ya. And you too, Mike.
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It's all in fun Brad.....:D


hey guys. I did not try any Sadowskys yet, but I did try a Pensa Custom today at Rudy's Music in NYC. Must say I fell in love with it. Sadly, I'm 15 and don't have nearly enough money for that, even when my dad said he would be willing to pay for 1/2 considering it was an invenstment for my future music career. Now this Pensa was around $3,200. That is a lot of money. A LOT. So I wanna do all my homework and see what bass would be best for me. I already have a standard american jazz bass, rickenbacker, and warwick 5 string. and the Pensa is just a tricked out fender jazz. VERY tricked out. higher output pickups for sure. But is it really what i want? or should i go for a bass with humbuckers or p-90's? and any comments on roscoe basses? would the sadowsky metro m5- 24 fit my needs? i see some of you guys dont like the metro ones. oh how i hate this process.

If you fell in love with the Pensa- get the Pensa and call it a day.
The more you throw into the mix, so to speak, the more things may get confused for you.

$3200 is a good chunk to drop though on any bass..
 
@ brad johnson... I kinda do have the budget, but I would get either the bass or amp, then the other in a couple months or more like a year. So which would you do first

I'm not Brad, but.... normally I would say it's much more exciting getting a new bass, but seeing as you already have a sweet Jazz, a Ric, AND a Warwick, flip a coin and see what happens:D


Back on topic- SADOWSKY RULES!!!!!:hiding:
 
I have been following this thread for a while and find the comments interesting, to say the least. I have absolutely no problem with people finding my basses are not the "magic bullet" for them. Back in the mid 90's, during the very first Nashville NAMM show, Bass Player Magazine held a "round table discussion".. I remember it was attended by Mike Tobias, Stu Spector, Mike Pedulla, Greg Curbow, Joe Zon and others. BTW, all of us are friends. I made the point that "all of us had our fans who thought we made the best basses on the planet. And that it was kind of perfect that way, wasn't it? There were plenty of bass players for all of us". I still think this holds true today. Sure, there are some names that have come along that weren't around 15-20 years ago, but nothing has really changed in this regard.

The only thing that irks me is when people question my integrity or my craftsmanship. I have been building guitars since 1972 and can obviously make everything I do by hand. Many folks find this appealing and there are plenty of one man shops out there that will do this for you. What attracted me to CNC was consistency. I prefer to deal direct with players rather than dealers. I wanted to know that if someone played a Sadowsky anywhere in the world, that if they ordered one, the neck would feel like the one they tried. Buying a custom instrument is a very stressful experience for the builder and the player. "Will this bass meet my expectations?" By having some standardized models with a menu of options, and by giving my customers a 7 day approval period, it takes a lot of the stress out of the equation. Buy a Sadowsky, try it for a week, and if you are not completely in love, return it for a full refund, minus the shipping. What could be more user friendly than that?

The idea that I am more of a marketeer than a builder is insulting to me. The idea that we are just a screwdriver shop that buys pre-made parts and puts them together is also insulting. If I set up shop in the boonies, I would do everything in house. I made a decision in the 70's that it was more important to me to be close to the professional musicians who were my clientele. Given the reality of NYC real estate, it made it necessary to use some subcontractors as I could not afford the space required to process raw lumber and have big industrial machinery. I would not trade the relationships I have had with my players for all the shop space and machinery in the world. It has been the quality of my clientele that has helped make me who I am.

I never hype my instruments or our process. I still personally true every fingerboard on every instrument we make. I personally do the final set-up and inspection on every instrument we make. I empower my crew do be the best that they can be. I run a real business and give my employees good wages, benefits and pay about $85,000 a year in heath insurance for my staff. I am fully insured and pay all of my taxes. I have never been deceptive about anything I do. I have never had "trade secrets" and share everything about how we do what we do. My instruments stand on their own merits. They speak for themselves. My reputation was made by the players who appreciate what I do, not by my advertising campaign. I treat my customers like family and take the best care of them I possibly can. My karma is good and I sleep well every night.

Feel free to email me if you have any questions.

Roger
 
@ brad johnson... I kinda do have the budget, but I would get either the bass or amp, then the other in a couple months or more like a year. So which would you do first

If the only amp I had was inadequate for my current needs and I already had a decent bass, I'd get an amp. If my current amp was cool, I'd get the bass just about every time. Done that way too many times already.
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Good amplification is actually pretty easy to come by.
 
Dude, no one was bashing you.

Guess you haven't read the thread:

Carrying those dated design compromises over into a modern CNC'd instrument is bad enough, but Sadowsky and the other Fender cloners are putting $3000+ lipstick on a $300 pig and laughing all the way to the bank.

The basses are quite nice, but I just can't get past the price for a Fender copy...crazy. Now a LOT of people will come in and defend the indefensible...Yeah, those ones I REALLY don't get....$2500.00 for a Japanese-made robot copy that probably cost $200.00 to make (and sounds like it).Good on Roger for being able to charge that much. I won't be buying one anytime soon.
 
High action, wide neck/fingerboard, too wide string spacing for a 5 string, and too much space between the body and strings.

First off Scott, I'm glad the MV5 didn't work out for you. For my needs it's a great fit. I can't tell you the number of compliments I've gotten by fellow bassists on how the "B" string sounds like a continuation of the others. Unlike other high end basses I have owned (you know the ones with the "thunderous "B"strings) the "B" on this bass sounds like it belongs. Also, as far action, it was up pretty high when I received it from you, but now a good strong breath towards the fretboard will play the note.:D Wide spacing is a matter of taste. I grew up playing P's and the like, that all had the same spacing so it's no issue. The bottom of the "B" string is .405 from the pickguard. Not to nit pick, but measure what you find on your bass and see if it compares. Personally I don't see why that even matters?
 
Ok. I would definately get a 212 bergantino cab. I thought the genz benz 9.0 was really nice. Didn't like the eden stuff at all. That would be a solid 900 watts. Perfect for me. Or do I get a bass! Start pming me cuz I don't want to get in trouble for posting off topic stuff here.

My amp focus just took an unexpected turn. I just put together an 1100w @4ohm preamp/power amp setup for well under $500 thanks to the new Crown XLS Drivecore line of amps and my old but still excellent Yamaha PB-1 preamp. PM for more info.
 
Oh. Well, I wouldn't call them fender copies at all. The pensas are like that too. Fender may have invented the body shap and stuff, but its fine craftsmen like you that give people their monies worth. I swear when I say when I picked up the pensa, custom mtds, sadowskys, etc I play better. Specifically in my slap technique.