• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Has anyone hated Hip Hop then eventually liked it?

I used to listen to hip hop during the 90's (as well as rock and metal), got tired of it and started listening to primarily hard rock and metal, then all of that started to sound the same. Now I listen to hip hop, indie/experimental rock, and my favorite old rock and metal stuff. Talent and good songs are not exclusive to any one genre.
 
I'm not a hip hop fan or a Kanye fan, but I think the public is being way too harsh with Kanye West. I realize I am in an extreme minority on this. He made a terrible mistake, but I just feel the punishment is greater than the crime. :hiding:

He's always been that way before the Taylor Swift thing. I was :rollno: when it took people that long to realize it. They also didn't realize that all that talk and hating gave him MORE publicity. The easiest way to shut up a spoiled baby is to ignore him. Otherwise you're doing what he wants you to do.

Anyway, I'm glad you like hip-hop now. It seems to me that when I go on talkbass there's a big "I hate hip-hop!" attitude. And when I'm out in the "real world" it's an "I hate country!" type of attitude. I think both groups need to open their minds and ears more.

I just started playing in a hip-hop band and it's been lots of fun. It's actually quite a challenge to come up with a unique bass line that helps the song, and to not overplay. It's tougher than you think, especially the last part.
 
Ron Carter thought they were good enough to work with them.

I'm not sure that is really a rationale that validates or legitimizes the genre. Or at least it shouldn't. Kinda like saying because Paul McCartney used a Hofner, then, because he's great/important/etc... means that YOU should use a Hofner. I mean, good for Ron Carter, but his involvement (or not) is, IMO, irrelevant, and in any event, hip hop as a genre should stand on its own merits without "star endorsements" of one kind or another.

:D
 
Um....nope. I still "be hatin" on the hip hop. I think when it first came out, it was original and had something to say. These days it's just crap (to me). But hey, if you like it, awesome. They must know SOMETHING. They all make a bazzilion dollars a minute. There's mass appeal there somewhere. So maybe I'M the one who's wrong.
 
I like hiphop and rap for the beats. The lyrics i could give a lick less about (but, then again, who really listens to the lyrics I mean really). Godflesh, which is one of my top-5 favorite bands, has some pretty heavy hip-hop/dance lines in it, and Justin Broderick has been involved with Hip-Hop projects (Techo Animal, for example). All in all, it's like everything else, you have the classic stuff, the commercial drivvel and the fringe crossover stuff.
Just like Rock.
 
With all due respect to those who like it, there are certain things I don't much care for. I kinda think about hip hop as I think about broccolli: There is good broccolli, there is bad broccolli. Some may have prepared it better. Some may have put cheese on it and tried to cover it up. But as far as my experience is concerned, the broccolli has to be so altered and "hidden" or covered up by so much other stuff to be remotely palatable, you kinda wonder if you're even really eating broccolli any more????

I do respect if someone else likes it, however... If it moves you, cool beans. Who am I to tell you what isn't my favorite can't be your favorite?
 
He's always been that way before the Taylor Swift thing. I was :rollno: when it took people that long to realize it. They also didn't realize that all that talk and hating gave him MORE publicity. The easiest way to shut up a spoiled baby is to ignore him. Otherwise you're doing what he wants you to do.

Anyway, I'm glad you like hip-hop now. It seems to me that when I go on talkbass there's a big "I hate hip-hop!" attitude. And when I'm out in the "real world" it's an "I hate country!" type of attitude. I think both groups need to open their minds and ears more.

I just started playing in a hip-hop band and it's been lots of fun. It's actually quite a challenge to come up with a unique bass line that helps the song, and to not overplay. It's tougher than you think, especially the last part.

I actually still don't like hip hop. It's just that I think the public was a little too harsh on Kanye West. I'm certainly not a Kanye West fan, either, but I felt the condemnation of him was overkill. He actually did have a valid point, but the way he tried to make his point was totally wrong.
 
I love hip-hop instrumentals of all kinds (closer to On The Corner the better), but "rap", spoken word vocals are as bizarre to me as male soprano castrati singing! It's... kind of ugly and usually very stupid. Even the "positive" stuff is just social consumerist junk...not art.
 
Notice how buzzbass just comes in here and tells everyone how much he hates the music that this thread is about. Does this guy always hijack threads? It really shows how ignorant some people really are.
I suppose he could briefly state his opinion then perhaps leave something on a positive note?? Like at least this: "good luck and make some bucks" for the OP?? I dunno, just a thought...:)
 
Notice how buzzbass just comes in here and tells everyone how much he hates the music that this thread is about. Does this guy always hijack threads? It really shows how ignorant some people really are.

Hijack the thread from a grand total of TWO posts from him in three pages of discussion? Might want to rethink your last statement and where the word ignorant is applicable...

:eyebrow: