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Has Gretsch been lying to us for over a decade?

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This seems higly plausible to me. Remember when Ernie Ball released the Cutlass and Caprice basses? Their trade announcements said they were the first passive basses the company ever released by the company.

This statement was completely incorrect as the company introduced the USA S.U.B. bass in 2003 (about 10 years prior to the release of the Caprice and Cutlass) which came standard as passive. Active version was $50 more.

The company never corrected their statement.

Does anyone know if any FMIC employees are here on TB?

Also, a great way to elicit a response from them is to post on social media, i.e. twitter and IG.
That’s a good idea. For some reason I always find corporations respond to Twitter. Lobster, are you on Twitter? If so maybe you should post your video there with the right hashtags.
 
That’s a good idea. For some reason I always find corporations respond to Twitter. Lobster, are you on Twitter? If so maybe you should post your video there with the right hashtags.

Nope. I haaaaaaaate Twitter. I had one briefly but find it's just a people to complain (sometimes rightfully so) and get in drama with other folks.
 
Nope. I haaaaaaaate Twitter. I had one briefly but find it's just a people to complain (sometimes rightfully so) and get in drama with other folks.
! That is definitely true. I literally only use it when I can’t get a response from someone like the cable company. Maybe because it’s public to everybody, it’s the only way I get a response sometimes from a major corporation. But I hear ya
 
I purchased mine in 2021 and am thrilled by it. The playability, the neck, and the pickups. I really don't care what they are, they sound great. But they were advertised as mini humbuckers and that is why I bought one. So I feel duped.
If you're going to advertise that they're mini humbuckers then they have to be on there, if not, it's a plain case of bait and switch and a clear case of false advertising.
I just can't believe that for a bass that's been out there ten years nobodies noticed this before.;)
 
13 pages and no posts from @GretschWretch really? Seems like (from the 6 pages I skimmed before skipping right to end :smug:) the fact is the pickup itself is a single. Any chance there's a dummy coil built into the whole circuit somewhere? Or that the coil stack is split without a divider?
 
“Fraud” is a setting the bar pretty high and quite frankly a bit dramatic.
Fraud implies intent.

They intended to make money off of us for not knowing better. Dont defend them. It's not dramatic. I would not have bought this bass at all if I had known. If I were to lie about a product and sell it, I'd get sued for fraud. I have been fighting the noise that shouldn't have been there since I bought it.

Does anyone know if any FMIC employees are here on TB?

Tons of them on this thread. Ok so maybe not employees, but FMIC disciples at least. God forbid you say anything bad about FMIC & friends.

It's simple. I would not have bought this bass if I knew it was single coil. My money was parted from me fraudulently.
 
@LowEndLobster here's mine photos with paper as promised. Bought in January 2021, so it's likely a 2020 model. I've notified Sweetwater. Not sure what's gonna come out of that.

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13 pages and no posts from @GretschWretch really? Seems like (from the 6 pages I skimmed before skipping right to end :smug:) the fact is the pickup itself is a single. Any chance there's a dummy coil built into the whole circuit somewhere? Or that the coil stack is split without a divider?

GretschWretch posts only about things with which he has some familiarity. To do otherwise would only add noise, not signal, to the discussion. The only Gretsch basses GretschWretch owns are the vintage 6070 and 6072, and the contemporary 5440LSB and the G6072. No short-scales, solidbodies or guitars, and no interest in any short-scales, solidbodies,or guitars. So why waste money on them?

There are some Gretsch-centric forums on the web as well as standalone links. When in doubt, I use these myself.
 
13 pages and no posts from @GretschWretch really? Seems like (from the 6 pages I skimmed before skipping right to end :smug:) the fact is the pickup itself is a single. Any chance there's a dummy coil built into the whole circuit somewhere? Or that the coil stack is split without a divider?

GretschWretch posts only about things with which he has some familiarity. To do otherwise would only add noise, not signal, to the discussion. The only Gretsch basses GretschWretch owns are the vintage 6070 and 6072, and the contemporary 5440LSB and the G6072. No short-scales, solidbodies or guitars, and no interest in any short-scales, solidbodies,or guitars. So why waste money on them?

There are some Gretsch-centric forums on the web as well as standalone links. When in doubt, I use these myself.
 
Given that mine is going to be strung ADGC for solo bass noodling, I'm not sure I care much beyond the fact it was advertised as having humbuckers. It's just not right.

I like mine... I just LOATHE hum. Perhaps it's because of some hearing loss I've got, but that extra noise bothers me. I refused to play/own J basses for YEARS because of hum. I only played on one this last year, just to see what it was all about. I've been playing (poorly... with log gaps) since roughly 2001. So that's a long time to refuse to play an iconic instrument just because of hum.
 
They intended to make money off of us for not knowing better. Dont defend them. It's not dramatic. I would not have bought this bass at all if I had known. If I were to lie about a product and sell it, I'd get sued for fraud. I have been fighting the noise that shouldn't have been there since I bought it.

Also I say bad things about Fenders all the time.


Tons of them on this thread. Ok so maybe not employees, but FMIC disciples at least. God forbid you say anything bad about FMIC & friends.

It's simple. I would not have bought this bass if I knew it was single coil. My money was parted from me fraudulently.

i agree with you that this is no bueno. I was actually wondering if there are any known Fender employees here listed as commercial users or otherwise. If so I would think mentioning them might get corporate’s attention.
 
GretschWretch posts only about things with which he has some familiarity. To do otherwise would only add noise, not signal, to the discussion. The only Gretsch basses GretschWretch owns are the vintage 6070 and 6072, and the contemporary 5440LSB and the G6072. No short-scales, solidbodies or guitars, and no interest in any short-scales, solidbodies,or guitars. So why waste money on them?

There are some Gretsch-centric forums on the web as well as standalone links. When in doubt, I use these myself.
Fair enough :D
 
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