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How would define "bad music"?
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Music that lessens us as humans and as a society, celebrating and glorifying the worst in us, instead of lifting us up and challenging ua to examine what we do and be better people.
Same way I define good and bad anything else.
Same way I define good and bad anything else.
I was very close to giving you a like, but this threw me off. I never liked the highbrow attitude of "getting" or "understanding" art.
My mom is tone-deaf, and she always says: "Well, I don't know the first thing about music". I always reply, the only thing you have to know, is the answer to the following question: "Do I like it, yes or no?"
And that's what all art comes down to, in my humble view. I visit several museums on an annual basis, in a wide range of arts and topics etc. And the only thing that matters to me, is whether or not it speaks to me. If it doesn't, then I won't even consider "educating myself to the point where I get it.
Truth. I like good music. I like bad music. I can't stand boring music.
I respect your opinion/viewpoint, but responding at length with the reasons why I disagree would take forever on my phone. Perhaps that's a blessing...
In any case, when an actual keyboard is at hand, I may offer some counter thoughts.
Cheers.
Like Skittles in a maple syrup broth topped with cotton candy and rainbow sprinkles good or bad.Good or bad?
Had A bass riff once. Back in the 80s. B4 you got cancelled for a dodgy lyric. Kinda dark and it cried out to modulate up in semitones. Couldn't think of anything to do with it till our vocalist wrote a slasher fantasy over it. Song absolutely killed it. (Ignore the pun.) But she got a bit carried away with the words. Like, is there something you're not telling us carried away.
Arguably our best song. But we didn't play it much coz you sorta felt like you needed a shower after you did. I guess that would be bad music.
Arguably our best song. But we didn't play it much coz you sorta felt like you needed a shower after you did. I guess that would be bad music.
Apart from that if you got strong feelings about what bad music is, I'll probably find some value in that music. Old people been telling me I listen to garbage my whole life. I see no reason to stop pushing back against that just because I'm one of them now.
Not a fan of that attitude either.
I’ll listen to anything. Except Yoko Ono.
There’s music I like and music I don’t. And there are a lot of people who think the opposite. It’s neither good nor bad.
Honestly, I hear a people in my age group (I turn 60 this year) saying exactly the same things I heard my parents saying about my music when I was a teenager. There’s no good music anymore, today’s music sucks, the “noise” the kids are listening to these days is garbage, etc. Every once in a while I ask someone when they say things like that, “Do you hear yourself?! You sound like our parents!”. The typical response is exactly what people my parents age would say.
Sure, there's a lot out there today that just doesn’t do anything for me. And, I admit to sometimes starting to go down the same path myself. But I try to catch myself before I actually open my mouth. I don’t want to be that guy. Everyone is entitled to their own music.
Honestly, I hear a people in my age group (I turn 60 this year) saying exactly the same things I heard my parents saying about my music when I was a teenager. There’s no good music anymore, today’s music sucks, the “noise” the kids are listening to these days is garbage, etc. Every once in a while I ask someone when they say things like that, “Do you hear yourself?! You sound like our parents!”. The typical response is exactly what people my parents age would say.
Sure, there's a lot out there today that just doesn’t do anything for me. And, I admit to sometimes starting to go down the same path myself. But I try to catch myself before I actually open my mouth. I don’t want to be that guy. Everyone is entitled to their own music.
Yep. To me it defines bad. Someone pointed me to something of hers that was decent, at least things were in key and resembled music. But that made her other stuff worse to me because she is apparently capable but chooses not to make listenable music.
There's no such thing as good art. There's no such thing as bad art.
There are artists who are skilled enough to accurately translate their desire and/or idea into their chosen medium.
There are artists who are not.
There are artists everywhere on that spectrum.
Anything past that is just enforcing rules on art.
There are artists who are skilled enough to accurately translate their desire and/or idea into their chosen medium.
There are artists who are not.
There are artists everywhere on that spectrum.
Anything past that is just enforcing rules on art.
Art is a labor of love. Since it is labor, by definition, there are skilled and unskilled categories. Unskilled labor in environs where skill is critical is unacceptable. I guess the discussion re/ art might be better framed as skilled and unskilled. Art in music without skill and dedication to competency, musically idiomatic vocabulary (harmonic, melodic,and rhythmic), and fluency is of no interest to me.
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Honestly, I hear a people in my age group (I turn 60 this year) saying exactly the same things I heard my parents saying about my music when I was a teenager. There’s no good music anymore, today’s music sucks, the “noise” the kids are listening to these days is garbage, etc. Every once in a while I ask someone when they say things like that, “Do you hear yourself?! You sound like our parents!”. The typical response is exactly what people my parents age would say.
I'm in my early fifties and I've had to remind people in my cohort that "New music isn't made for you or me, and our opinions don't matter". You don't like Taylor Swift? Cool, neither do I. But it's not recorded for our ears and we don't get to determine if it's "good" or "bad". It's made for people like my 13 year old niece whose eyes light up when discussing her oeuvre. Much the same way as I did when I first encountered, say, New Order around that age. Or my father hearing CCR before I was born.
The really good works of art speak for themselves. If an artist needs to explain their work, maybe it isn't so hot after all.
"Art is just a dog on Neil Young's porch."
