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I'll never record again, ever.
- Thread starter Killed_by_Death
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Ugh. What a cruel thing to say to someone out of the blue.
In my limited experience, I find there's a certain privilege one can claim when vamping live- mistakes are lost to the aether instantly, and a good lick is worth celebrating since it's gone before anyone has a chance to turn a critical ear to it.
But then, you record it. Now "good" is just "ok" taking up space where there could be something great, and a mistake is absolutely unforgivable. The slightest imperfection eats away at the whole concept.
I've been trying all year to put my ideas to tape, but what pleases my ears in the moment gets locked in amber and I detest it- Boring! Repetitive! Tonal garbage.
There's no two ways about it- recording is hard. And folks, they gotta respect that and at least try be nice to each other.
Not that I aim to give 'em the chance. I ain't posting spit 'till I feel good about it for a change. Then I'll consider letting people point out all the flaws I'm slowly conditioning myself to accept.
--^@
In my limited experience, I find there's a certain privilege one can claim when vamping live- mistakes are lost to the aether instantly, and a good lick is worth celebrating since it's gone before anyone has a chance to turn a critical ear to it.
But then, you record it. Now "good" is just "ok" taking up space where there could be something great, and a mistake is absolutely unforgivable. The slightest imperfection eats away at the whole concept.
I've been trying all year to put my ideas to tape, but what pleases my ears in the moment gets locked in amber and I detest it- Boring! Repetitive! Tonal garbage.
There's no two ways about it- recording is hard. And folks, they gotta respect that and at least try be nice to each other.
Not that I aim to give 'em the chance. I ain't posting spit 'till I feel good about it for a change. Then I'll consider letting people point out all the flaws I'm slowly conditioning myself to accept.
--^@
KBD may or may not be objective about his efforts, but unlike him: very few on TB have a big enough sack to post 'real risk taking', IMO. a lot of wannabes apparently think that 'snark' alone passes as chops, expertise, yada yada. it's my only real criticism about this place: it's so easy to pass yourself off as an expert when you're really just looking for a gig to replace the last fail.
passing on helping a fellow musician in favor of assuming the anonymous, wannabe, smarta$$ role is just a substitute...displacement to hide inadequacies. everyone knows that. it's a common human activity: criticize all, reveal nothing. simple stuff...and really easy.
kudos to those who post audio, video, pics, true stories, fails, risk taking, proud successes, new instruments (used and beat up), overcoming fears and obstacles and all the rest of the stuff that are markers on an actual journey. you have my respect and appreciation! thanks for sharing.
Killed_by_Death : thanks for your POV and your posts/threads.
passing on helping a fellow musician in favor of assuming the anonymous, wannabe, smarta$$ role is just a substitute...displacement to hide inadequacies. everyone knows that. it's a common human activity: criticize all, reveal nothing. simple stuff...and really easy.
kudos to those who post audio, video, pics, true stories, fails, risk taking, proud successes, new instruments (used and beat up), overcoming fears and obstacles and all the rest of the stuff that are markers on an actual journey. you have my respect and appreciation! thanks for sharing.
Killed_by_Death : thanks for your POV and your posts/threads.
No one cares if you, me, or anyone else calls it quits.
If I've learned one thing from this thread, it's not to take any opinion on technique, tone etc. serious, without considering their commitment to the instrument & their pursuit of improvement.
Now I know why he calls himself Downunderwonder.
It's got nothing to do with the southern hemisphere at all.
It's got nothing to do with the southern hemisphere at all.
That drummer has had me freak out over him ever since I first saw the video. Creepy... And it reminds me of this, which also gives me the willies:
As for recording, I love it. My only problem seems to be that my sound is never quite the same each time, but that actually works in my favor when double/triple tracking bass. I would never post anything I'm not standing behind 100%, I've learned that the hard way too (albeit not on TB). Growing a thicker skin was, at least for me, the only way forward.
Recording live and in the studio made me a better player and raised my confidence to do it more.
This was taken out of context, imo. I remember the other thread.
I have two questions - 1. Why did you wait this long to bring this up? 2. Why did you not just PM our friend from down under?
I've had responses where I was like...wait, what? A quick PM can clear this stuff up easily.
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I still love playing live, but the music scene has a lost a lot of it's appeal in the last few years.
Because if you spent as much time practicing as complaining on the internet, then there wouldn't be anything to complain about in the first place.
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Nothing's going to stand between me and my bass, certainly not any snarky criticism from another non-top-rank player with an opinion. Do it your way. Guess what. It makes zero difference to me. I started without your approval, and I will continue just fine—with plenty of gigs—without your approval.
To me, this is #1. I'm rather critical of everything I hear (can't help it, it's called "an ear"). When I'm playing and can put myself into a song, it's because I'm sounding good to myself. It took me a long time to understand that.
Yes! Watch the audience. Notice who is into what you're doing, and play to THEM.
Depends on the critic, don't ya think?
Oh yeah. There's nothing quite like taking the stage in a boisterous room, and by the second verse you can hear a pin drop. If I'm doing it right tonight.
I have five grandkids. They all head to my studio when they come over. I love it!- Playing in front of kids and earning happy smiles from them; happened for the first time this week; unplanned, spontaneously. My guitarist and me were practicing outside, already finished, when suddenly some kids sat down before us *lol* Even though I played horrible, and was way more nervous than playing in front of adults, they even chimed in during the chorus! Made me happy as can
"four" was really impressive, young man! ha!
on the video above = shows you are/were going for something...right?
they stand out, i agree. "dramatically" = overstated, IMO. "obvious" is a term which works better for me...but in the long run: who really cares about what either of us think? except maybe, the next producer, BL, drummer/rhythm section, etc., if we've worked really hard and we're really lucky...right?Nah....the fake ones stand out pretty dramatically.
KBD just logged on....
...and his sucker fish are attacking...
...and his sucker fish are attacking...
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