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I'm thinking of going vegetarian

#143
AlphaMale said:
I've actually read these facts from multiple sources offline, (books and pamphlets) but here

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That's a website promoting the traditional Hindu lifestyle, which would of course embrace vegetarianism. I did a little searching and found these arguments repeated on a bunch of pro-vegan and pro-vegetarian sites. That raises a bit of a red flag with respect to the veracity of the arguments. In fact, I don't think I found any arguments for either side of the debate that aren't highly suspect of being propaganda. Proponents of both sides really let their biases show. I guess it's par for the course in any kind of debate that has any emotional aspect.

I'm inclined to think that our physiology actually does reflect adaptation to an omnivorous diet, with a bias towards the herbivore side of things. We have long digestive tracts but not as long as true herbivores like cows. We're not as lean and muscled as true carnivores but we're not as fat and slow moving as many true herbivores are. In a lot of ways our teeth do resemble those of herbivores but true herbivores don't have any kind of canines. We do and I suspect that several million years of cooking food has probably diminished their size. We can also readily absorb nutrients from meat while true herbivores cannot.

That being said, I think our digestive systems are biased towards a diet high in vegetables and fruits, and that excess meat consumption should be avoided. The healthiest people are people who eat balanced diets and I don't think that the vegetarian/non-vegetarian choice has much to do with it.
 
#146
In case you forgot:

Fassa Albrecht said:
I've really been considering this for a long time now and I know there are veggie bassists on here.

So, anyone got any tips for changing diet, websites etc.?

Anything appreciated!
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She's looking for tips on changing her diet not debate on whether or not we're supposed to be cows or lions.

A friendly reminder from your neighborhood "can't we all get along?" representative.
 
#147
Not sure if this is entirely pertinent, but here goes: I went nearly vegetarian several years ago to combat alopecia(latin for 'hair falls out for no apparent reason'). Dumped all red meat, dairy, preservatives & processed foods & severely limited poultry & to a lesser extent fish. Amazingly, although I've NEVER heard of 1 instance where this happened, the hair came back. I still try to eat this way but it's hard(kids, busy/lazy).
For further info look up Dr, Andrew Weil- I went w/his general preventative health maintenance diet.

Edit: For me, morals/spirituality/religious beliefs had little or nothing to do w/it- I just wanted my hair back. :)
 
#151
Mark Reccord said:
That's a website promoting the traditional Hindu lifestyle, which would of course embrace vegetarianism. I did a little searching and found these arguments repeated on a bunch of pro-vegan and pro-vegetarian sites. That raises a bit of a red flag with respect to the veracity of the arguments. In fact, I don't think I found any arguments for either side of the debate that aren't highly suspect of being propaganda. Proponents of both sides really let their biases show. I guess it's par for the course in any kind of debate that has any emotional aspect.

I'm inclined to think that our physiology actually does reflect adaptation to an omnivorous diet, with a bias towards the herbivore side of things. We have long digestive tracts but not as long as true herbivores like cows. We're not as lean and muscled as true carnivores but we're not as fat and slow moving as many true herbivores are. In a lot of ways our teeth do resemble those of herbivores but true herbivores don't have any kind of canines. We do and I suspect that several million years of cooking food has probably diminished their size. We can also readily absorb nutrients from meat while true herbivores cannot.

That being said, I think our digestive systems are biased towards a diet high in vegetables and fruits, and that excess meat consumption should be avoided. The healthiest people are people who eat balanced diets and I don't think that the vegetarian/non-vegetarian choice has much to do with it.
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This, ladies and gentlemen, is Control. If only Left and Right could understand it.
 
#153
Barkless Dog said:
Has anyone to see how the Japanese raise Kobi Beef, one of the most expensive and supposedly delicious beef ?

Their primary belief is to raise the best beef possible comes from having the cow/steers to have the happiest lives possible. The cows are played music in their stalls, kept very clean, get to go to pasture everyday, get massages, even get to drink a little wine. The happiest life possible for them.

When the time comes to kill them, they have ritual prayers and the cow is killed with dignity. I believe it is OK to eat animals as long as they are treated with some humanity and not made to suffer horrible lives.
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How is a cow killed with 'dignity'? Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I'm yet to see any evidence of cows feeling dignified...
 
#154
Joe Nerve said:
I always say if we were meant to eat meat then we would eat it. We would have no problem with biting into the ribs of a cow, like other carnivores do. I would salivate at the sight of a dead deer. A rabbit wouldn't stand a chance, although it could out-hop me.

It ain't that way though. Without a lot of thought, devising weapons, cutting the "meat" up and cooking it so it looks and tastes nothing at all like "meat", I wouldn't put it near my mouth unless it were for lots and lots of bucks on fear factor.
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I think that you may be confusing a natural predisposition with conditioning.
 
#160
Please do not create threads on the topic of specific religions (for example, threads that debate the merits of a particular religion), or political debate. Religious/political discussions are challenging enough to moderate when people are face-to-face... In an impersonal, anonymous medium such as this, such threads tend to require constant moderation, create enemies out of prior friends, and generate more hate and anger than anything else. There are a plethora of other forums on the internet dedicated to such discussion, if that's what floats your boat. If you want to discuss religion on TalkBass, the limited-access Lounge Lobby forum is available for such discussion
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im not trying to exploit a loop hole nor convert any1 i was just simply stating my opion on the topic - take how u please
 

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