Totally agree with most of the above
Now try to sell your $1500.00 Warmoth after market...when suddenly an inferior instrument sells better...
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Is It Really Too Much to Ask?
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Totally agree with most of the above
Now try to sell your $1500.00 Warmoth after market...when suddenly an inferior instrument sells better...
I'll agree with the OP here that if there really is no production P bass with a J neck sans J pickup anywhere in the MIM to MIA lineup (excluding uber expensive custom stuff), that is surprising. You might expect there to be at least an artist series bass with that combo somewhere considering how popular the combo is. I'm in a similar boat as the OP at the moment; I have one of those MIM FRS PJ basses and find that although I love the jazz neck and the P pickup, I almost never use the J pickup. I'd love to be able to "upgrade" to a MIA P with a jazz neck without the uncertainty of throwing parts together.
And to those accusing the OP of having first world concerns, welcome to www.talkbass.com.
And to those accusing the OP of having first world concerns, welcome to www.talkbass.com.
nothing has been pooh-poohed...we are simply perplexed at why it isn't a standard option from Fender
I have already stated many many times I will assemble said bass from parts as I have done many many times over a 35 year period
I have already stated that i have purchased other Brands configured this way off the shelf...
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You have a point...BUT I never ever buy an instrument with the idea of selling it.Totally agree with most of the above
Now try to sell your $1500.00 Warmoth after market...when suddenly an inferior instrument sells better...
To me that never ever enters my mind.
To me its a tool...Maybe a tool I love, but a tool none the less.
Questions I just saw that you own 6 Fenders (I mean this in a non-judgment way) are you collector and seller were resale means something? Or more of a player that needs tools? (Again this could be read insulting and that is not my intent...Just curious) since my mind does not ever consider such things...I only usually sell my high end stuff if I don't bond with it or my daughters instruments.
But you should stop being perplexed, and the reason why has been stated many many times: this mod is not as popular as you think it is. If it was, FMIC would fill it.
You are still gonna lose money on any new bass. Plus you can part it out. But why must it be Warmoth or nothing? My build is a mighty mite body and neck and the quality is great. I got Aggie pups on sale, nice bridge, custom harness and Hipshot Ultralights and all in, less than 6 bills. I'm very happy. Anyway, there are lists of options out there for you without dropping 1500.Totally agree with most of the above
Now try to sell your $1500.00 Warmoth after market...when suddenly an inferior instrument sells better...
the short answer is both...
I like most people buy better tools as my skill level increases...there are many different brands of tools out there of different composition...from time to time we try those tools to see if we like them...sometimes we do...and sometimes...we don't and those get sold off...but why buy an expensive custom tool knowing that down the road if you don't like it or need it anymore you can't give it away let alone sell it...
Over the 37+ plus years of serious playing...I have tried and bought, Fender, Lakland, B.C. Rich. Traben. G&L, Warwick, ESP/LTD, Gibson, Rickenbacker, Schecter, Dean, SX, Dingwall, Hondo, Aria, Electra Westone, Edwards, and probably a few others I am forgetting
The Bulk of what still remains is made up of Lakland and Fender all of which have Jazz width nuts and a combination of passive "P", "J", and P/J" pickups...the majority of which are also bound and blocked...It's what I like in terms of feel, sound, and aesthetics
For a little background on me...I own/operate a small private recording studio (produce my own stuff and a lot of local band demo's) I also operate a small repair/resale shop on the side. I live with and care for many many reptiles (which is also a business) as well as play in three local bands and do a lot of local session work, while having a family and a full time job.
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If that were actually the case...other companies would not be filling the void...which has been stated many times...
None of those companies has anything like the market share FMIC has.
Look, clearly you’re right, FMIC is wrong. Shame on them. They’ll be in Chapter 11 any day now, because they failed to make a production version of your custom bass.
Again, good luck.
They used to make that bass in the 1970s, there was a "narrow neck" option in the 1972 catalog for an extra $15. Bursts were 3 color in those days.
Or buy one of the many J-necked P-Js and disconnect the J pickup.
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Ok cool...Makes sense and dig where you are coming from.
I'm a Lull artist and don't own any 4 string Lulls (only 5 strings) since buiding 60's and 70's style J basses from Warmoth I prefered more then the original.
I hope your succesfull in possibly building through aftermarket parts what you want.
You might want to try these guys who are local to me and sell Fender parts on ebay.
The STRATosphere | eBay Stores
Wishing you the best on your quest...
Cheers
nobody has ever stated that they are wrong anywhere in this thread...simply that they are missing an opportunity...and again it isn't custom they manufacture the required parts in abundance...
In some ways it's a good thing they don't...as their lack of vision has spawned many companies that give us more choices...
I read this whole thing a few hours ago and initially agreed that Fender is missing out by not offering this combination of parts. Then I started wondering how many sales they actually loose because of it. After all, if you simply must have a 1.5" nut and F logo on your P bass, you have several options which fall somewhere between a wash and a huge profit bump for FMIC.
1.) Buy a P bass and a jazz neck. Even if you buy a used neck, somewhere up the line FMIC sells another neck because of this.
2.) Buy a PJ, don't use the J pup, live with the looks and whatever tone change you hear.
3.) Spring for a CS.
Of course, there are also those of us who don't care what logo is on the headstock. Fender is surely losing sales to those of us buying G&Ls (or whatever other brands) in configurations Fender doesn't offer. That ratio is not 1:1 or even anything close to it though. How many of the folks who bought a LB100 with the 1.5" nut option would have bought a P if it were offered that way? I'd be surprised if it was half.
You can bet FMIC knows what the market is for this configuration and has concluded that they make more money by not offering it.
Companies do this all the time. When the 5th generation Corvette came out in 1997, a low option, lower cost, lighter weight version with slightly less power was supposed to follow shortly after. It never happened. When the '99 FRC Corvette came out, the roof was the only major change. GM figured out that the low option car would reduce profit margins and wouldn't steal any sales from other manufacturers. 2 years later, GM used that body style to create the Z06. The most expensive 'Vette in the lineup at the time.
1.) Buy a P bass and a jazz neck. Even if you buy a used neck, somewhere up the line FMIC sells another neck because of this.
2.) Buy a PJ, don't use the J pup, live with the looks and whatever tone change you hear.
3.) Spring for a CS.
Of course, there are also those of us who don't care what logo is on the headstock. Fender is surely losing sales to those of us buying G&Ls (or whatever other brands) in configurations Fender doesn't offer. That ratio is not 1:1 or even anything close to it though. How many of the folks who bought a LB100 with the 1.5" nut option would have bought a P if it were offered that way? I'd be surprised if it was half.
You can bet FMIC knows what the market is for this configuration and has concluded that they make more money by not offering it.
Companies do this all the time. When the 5th generation Corvette came out in 1997, a low option, lower cost, lighter weight version with slightly less power was supposed to follow shortly after. It never happened. When the '99 FRC Corvette came out, the roof was the only major change. GM figured out that the low option car would reduce profit margins and wouldn't steal any sales from other manufacturers. 2 years later, GM used that body style to create the Z06. The most expensive 'Vette in the lineup at the time.
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I agree with you, but after I built my own I stopped wondering. The custom shop is not likely to come up with anything better than what I've got.
Does it have to be Fender, anyway? G & L LB-100 has all your boxes checked except for the name, for example.
Thanks...I have done it before and I am obviously going to do it again...
I have built my own as well (See the posts about "Fanboy")
This go around...yes I want it to be a Fender...($800 is my budget and I think Fender is the best bang for the buck in this price range) otherwise I would just order another Lakland
I already own Lakland and G&L configured this way
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I have never bought a Fender instrument new...and I have always made most of my money back down the road, and in some cases more than what I paid/Invested...(Because of the mods)
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Maybe you have the wrong size shirt ?been there...done that...bought the T shirt and wore it out...did it all over again
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Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
Or the opposite. I've had a '73 P neck for my '76 jazz for the last 35 years.
