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#81
This thread doesn't make any sense.

What is the purpose of coming to a forum just to complain about some teacher and some assignment? You failed because you didn't do your homework properly, that is fair.

If you feel you were insulted by him, complain to the board of the faculty.

Don't come here to make physical threats do someone, we don't care about that, it's wrong, and once it's online, it's forever online. Do you understand what I mean?

What you are saying about the forms, trying to adjust the aaba to a blues just so that you are right doesn't make any sense. You are wrong. Learn it as it is.

Do the assignment, graduate, move on.
 
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Louis Broderick stopped the black 1987 Chrysler Fifth Avenue when he encountered a red light at the interchange of I-44 and Route 13 in Springfield, Missouri. It had been a long haul down from Kansas City, and his weariness was nipping at him. He kept telling himself he only had to endure another forty-five minutes to arrive at his destination.

Sitting here shuttling this dude named Phillip wasn’t what Louis had in mind for today. Yesterday had been highly stressful with his circuitous high-speed route around downtown Kansas City, being chased by a C-body Plymouth Fury. Louis’s plans for today were to sleep, get drunk, and find a warm piece of flesh – and not necessarily in that order. Such was not to be.


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Waiting for a seemingly long time for the light to turn green, Louis kept darting glances at the blue Mercury in his rearview mirror. It had been following him from a distance since they had left Kansas City and Louis rather doubted this was a coincidence; the well-dressed gentleman had warned him he may be followed to his destination. Phillip was apparently a hot commodity and people had traveled a great distance to have him delivered to a seemingly bizarre location.
 
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#84
Funny thread, it's the highlight of the past 10 minutes.

The general song pattern for most blues is: A

I laugh: elected not to do the assignment the teacher gave, mad at getting a failing grade for it, wants to punch him, doesn't want to do any work, can't count 12 bars, but graduating from some kind of school-- hopefully not music school. Thinks this is a blues progression : I (x4) IV (x4) I(x2) V(x2), and also thinks its a 16 bar pattern despite clearly adding up to 12 in his own breakdown, is perhaps confusing chord pattern (I, IV, V etc) with song structure notated with A's and B's... and won't post the much-discussed but so-far unmaterialized "analysis" in question despite threats and promises to do so, so as to shed light on just what the F@&% we're talking about.... for the sake of entertainment value, can we now analyize the rock song "Stolen Moments"?

Sounds a bit to me like this is a troll thread. Good for a few hearty chuckles, though. Well done, person purported to be a music student in Venezuela.
 
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Klonk said:
So that chord progression above would be the "A" part, and since it's a 12 bar blues, the song pattern will be the same as for most 12 bar blues that don't have a B part (a separate/different chord progression), namely: AAAAAAAAAAAAAA ad nauseum ;)

The OP is confusing "chord progression" with "song pattern" or "form". Different things man. Humility will make it easier to learn new things.
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Useful distinction I guess, I always thought "chord progression" was the whole song. If there was a verse/chorus/bridge structure to the song then you would break the parts of the progression up into A, B, C etc. sections, but defining a "chord progression" as the structure of a section is more hierarchical and makes sense. Thanks.
 
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It would appear, based on the link that rogerb provided, that the OP is talking about the lyric structure and not the chord progression when he says AAB.

For example: Crossroads Blues - 12 bar blues

Bars 1-4 = A "I went to the crossroads, tried to flag a ride"
Bars 5-8 = A "I went to the crossroads, tried to flag a ride"
Bars 9-12 = B "Asked the Lord above for Mercy, won't you save poor Bob, if you please"
 
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mikew31 said:
It would appear, based on the link that rogerb provided, that the OP is talking about the lyric structure and not the chord progression when he says AAB.

For example: Crossroads Blues - 12 bar blues

Bars 1-4 = A "I went to the crossroads, tried to flag a ride"
Bars 5-8 = A "I went to the crossroads, tried to flag a ride"
Bars 9-12 = B "Asked the Lord above for Mercy, won't you save poor Bob, if you please"
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But the OP is arguing that IV chord is a B section and the V chord is an A' section, which is not consistent with that analysis.
 
#90
1. This is jazz analysis - they are not talking lyrics, they are talking song structure. It's not what OP thinks. That is not how it is done. If you don't think 2+2=4, that doesn't change the fact that it does.
2. It is more of OP's attitude. This is his professor. Telling him he is assigning too much work, and that he does not respect him, and threatening him, is not how to get ahead.

mikew31 said:
The only thing I can gather for certainty is that confusion reigns.
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Only with OP.
 
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MattZilla said:
Louis Broderick stopped the black 1987 Chrysler Fifth Avenue when he encountered a red light at the interchange of I-44 and Route 13 in Springfield, Missouri. It had been a long haul down from Kansas City, and his weariness was nipping at him. He kept telling himself he only had to endure another forty-five minutes to arrive at his destination.

Sitting here shuttling this dude named Phillip wasn’t what Louis had in mind for today. Yesterday had been highly stressful with his circuitous high-speed route around downtown Kansas City, being chased by a C-body Plymouth Fury. Louis’s plans for today were to sleep, get drunk, and find a warm piece of flesh – and not necessarily in that order. Such was not to be.


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Waiting for a seemingly long time for the light to turn green, Louis kept darting glances at the blue Mercury in his rearview mirror. It had been following him from a distance since they had left Kansas City and Louis rather doubted this was a coincidence; the well-dressed gentleman had warned him he may be followed to his destination. Phillip was apparently a hot commodity and people had traveled a great distance to have him delivered to a seemingly bizarre location.
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Now we're getting somewhere.
Please continue.
 
#94
Well, I for one do not believe this student is a university level one as this would have been covered in late middle school or early high school. If not, the program would have weeded out a person focused on rock and telling their instructor they were wrong about jazz quite a while ago.

Anyway...

swarfrat said:
Dancing Queen is not jazz or blues no matter what the form. Oh wait nevermind...
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I completely agree. You clearly meant ABBA form rather than aaba.
 
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Yeah, actually I was thinking. Venezuela... pursuing a liberal arts degree...that depends on masses of people having disposable income to throw around. Even McDonald's isn't an option for fallback.
 
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