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Jule Amps Monique Part III

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I got to use Monique in the recording studio yesterday, for the first time. Ran the DI output straight to the board as my clean track - perfect. Warm, clear, and noise-free. Tonight I plan to place her back in the rack with the Crest CA9 and make the building shake. You created a wonderful piece of gear, Jule!
 
But what I found is if you leave the Fodera in passive mode with the tone knob still cut and use the Monique EQ instead of the Pope pre, the result is similar but with all this tube fatness! Obviously it depends on the room but I tend to keep the highs between 12-1, mids 1-2, and lows 2-3 o'clock. Check it out!

Nice call. I tried your suggestion and it did sound really sweet. I just spent two hours with Monique and cannot believe how many different tones I got out of her and I can see myself using every one of them! It's nice to have that flexibility. I still think that going into the Puma 900 return isn't the best solution. I lowered my input into Monique, lowered the line out, and when starting to crank up the 900, I started getting distortion (this was at a really loud volume)This was not the Monique breaking up, this was the power section of the 900 breaking up. Now will I ever play as loud as I was when I was testing it, no. I'm lucky to always have PA support. So theoretically I probably could stick with using the Puma. The true test for me will be when I get to test Monique with my Crest Pro 5200.
 
I wanted to share an email I just sent to Jule about my first experience using Monique. I just wanted to share my experience with those who may be lurking here and wondering about purchasing a Monique and if it is all hype. I can honestly say like many others here, it is not hype, it is all true! So here goes...

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Jule,

I want to thank you for making my gig this past Saturday evening one of the most pleasurable experiences I've had playing in the past 32 years. I was absolutely astounded how wonderful Monique sounded. It is so clean, thick and rich and has a thump that will knock you off your feet! When I was grooving and playing ghost notes, I can feel them slamming me in the back. Incredible! I was definitely over indulging in my playing but I couldn't help it. I was so inspired how Monique felt and sounded. It's definitely a 10 out of 10! It is by far the best piece of gear I have played through and I have owned them all (Earth, Peavey, Mesa, Ampeg, acoustic, SWR, and all of the new micro heads as well).

I worked with the preamp some more and can't believe how many tones I can get out of it. I know some people have said the eq doesn't do too much but I whole heatedly disagree. I've been able to dial up a multitude of sounds with it and it is dead quiet.

So thank you for all your hard work and a true work of art. You have satisfied my appetite for heavenly tone, I do not need to look any further. I think the only purchase left in the near future for me is the Minnie to go with her.

All the best,
Mike

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So there ya go. So now go out and get one!!! You won't regret it!!!!
 
Matty, your stuff is really good! The bass playing's hawt and sounds killer.

So hey everyone, I was looking up 6SL7's tonight, and never saw any new tube brands other than Sovtek and Tung Sol. I thought there were more than them out there, or did we lose a couple manufacturers?
 
Here's a live recording I did w/ Monique & Minnie a few weeks ago with a funk band called Wadata





Sounds great! I miss my Deep Impact. It finally died on me. I'm using a Korg G5 now which sounds great and tracks really well too. You just need to use an eq pedal after it to boost some low end with it. I just wish it wasn't such a large footprint.
 
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Stop the presses!! As usual I think I put my foot in my mouth for giving my thoughts on Monique so soon. I'm probably going to take some lumps here for this but here goes. The following is obviously strictly my opinion and my tone taste.

So I finally got to do a comparison between Monique and my Read Purity Pre. Sometimes when you don't play a piece of equipment for a while you forget how it sounds. Just saying...

Here is what I used for the comparison:

-Fodera Emperor Elite II Passive Mode
-Puma 900 fx return for power
-Baer ML112

For those of you who are not familiar with the Read Purity Pre (its been a while), here are the pros and cons of it IMO:

Read Purity Pre:

-Pro-With the EQ byassed and the emphasis knob engaged (at about 11o'clock for me), it provides you with a mid punch, burp, and grind to die for. It truly is magical. But you do lose a little bottom which you can make up on your bass or an outboard eq pedal. The mids really jump out with authority.. Dare I say it but almost an ala Jaco type tone. I would say it has a nice balance of warm tube tone with a splash of HiFi tone mixed in.

-Pro- These arent that important to me but to some players here I know it is... Tuner out, FX loop, Mute for silent tuning, Deep switch, Bright switch.

Pro- Top notch quality components, all point to point soldered connections.. No PC board here.

-Con- When you engage the eq, you lose some of the magic tone this preamp provides. The EQ is not a slice and dice eq, and may not solve a problem in a acoustical troublesome room.

Con- And this is huge for me... The Tube DI out is a direct out. So that lovely sounding emphasis circuit is nowhere to be found at the DI output. However the DI output does sound round, fat, tubey, and warm. So if you are the type that likes to send your direct signal to FOH then I think you will be fine with it.

Con- This may be a con for some. Its a rack mount and does have some weight to it. It is obviously no longer in production and Jack no longer services them.


So after 2 hours of going back and forth and based soley on those 2 preamps and for my tonal purposes I would give a slight edge, and I mean very slight to the Monique. Only because it does sound a bit fatter than the Read, its compact, and the eq is fed to the DI circuit.

But to be completely honest, if someone brought over their Monique to my house and I got to do this same comparison with my Read, I dont think I would have dropped the coin to buy it. I feel the mids of the Read Purity are far better for my taste than the Monique. Obviously this is all subjective for the tone you are looking for, in my case I do like bottom, but I especially want that mid in your face burp too. I think Monique pulls this off well, just not as good as my Read IMO.

So obviously this got me thinking. I know the Reddi is a killer DI and it would probably sound great. Would I be better off using a Reddi DI in my fx loop of my Read to achieve what I am getting with Monique? Probably not totally due to having the extra eq capability with Monique. You see where I'm going with this....

So as I went back and forth there are things I love about both preamps. So I did the next obvious thing. Try both together.

So again, Fodera in passive mode, into the Read to get that nice emphasis circuit and punchy mid burp (eq out), then line out of the Read into the input of the Monique. I had to turn the line out of the Monique down to about 2 o'clock. I added a touch of mid and bass on the Monique, and the sensitivity about 9 o'clock, and then still using the Puma 900 for power.

The result for me... absolutely perfect. Going from the Read to the Monique gave me the mids from the Read I fell in love with when I bought it, but then going into the Monique darkened and warmed up the tone a bit more and provided me with extra tubey fatness and bass that I was missing from the Read alone.

At this point I'm not going to sell my Monique. I still think it sounds great and is a quality piece of gear. I am very happy with it. I also think it is the perfect marriage with my Read pre that has been collecting dust for some time now. So Monique may wind up being a botique DI with eq for me to make up for the few things missing with my Read.

Its really funny how things work out. I get so pumped for new gear and get on the GAS bandwagon, and sometimes I go blind and forget what I have. It is true that I might not have bought Monique if I had the opportunity to try it alongside my Read, but I can also honestly say I am happy with adding it to my collection, and looking forward to using it with my Read pre live.

I am so thankful to the fellow TB'ers out there who talked me out of selling my Read pre a few months back. Yeah it is a bit of a drag to lug a small rack now on my next gig, but if I wind up being happy with the end result, so be it. I think the Read and Monique will be a perfect marriage for me.

Hmm so whats next... I have not tried using the Puma 900 front end into the Monique. Perhaps I should check that out.

I understand that Monique was originally intended to use as a front end into another preamp, but I dont believe there are ever any set rules when it comes to tone. If it sounds good and works for you, then thats all that matters.

Hopefully I have not lulled all of you to sleep by now. Perhaps I just put my foot in my mouth again..

Cheers,
Mike
 
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