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Lakland Owners Group #55!

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Thanks to the precise posts from all of you Lakland Experts, I am getting my first one. It is going to be the Skyline DJ Natural (Adam Clayton). I hope to be picking it up between april 8th to 21st. As soon as I have it with me, I will share a picture! Time is going to track sloooooooow until then...:bassist:
 
#226
Mrfstop said:
I thought it was a bit odd too.
I mean paint? coming off in one slab? due to heat in transit?
hmmmmmmmmmm freeeeeky :eyebrow:
I guess? Anything CAN maybe happen? maybe?
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Having reconditioned a 12000 ton ex-car ferry in my gap year (very long story), where I was a painter and carpet layer, I can assure you that there ARE paints out there that peel off in very even, very thick strips when heat is applied. That said, the heat needs to be pretty extreme - a heatgun can get up to 400 degrees or so.

What really matters is the smoothness of the surface underneath, and the 'plasticyness' of the paint. A smooth, finely sanded headstock would be smooth enough for certain paints to stick onto, without necessarily sinking into the wood.
Nevertheless, the thought of being able to peel paint off wood like that (I was peeling paint off steel and aluminium) is surprising - I wonder was that particular headstock originally sanded and varnished as a natural headstock, then they realised a mistake was made, and instead of resanding, they simply painted over the existing clearcoat?
This is wild speculation, but it accounts for both the paint peeling and the fact that this seems to be a one-off occurence.

All information is IMO/IME, of course.

Cheers,
SoundSupport
 
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Thanks for the knowledge!


SoundSupport said:
Having reconditioned a 12000 ton ex-car ferry in my gap year (very long story), where I was a painter and carpet layer, I can assure you that there ARE paints out there that peel off in very even, very thick strips when heat is applied. That said, the heat needs to be pretty extreme - a heatgun can get up to 400 degrees or so.

What really matters is the smoothness of the surface underneath, and the 'plasticyness' of the paint. A smooth, finely sanded headstock would be smooth enough for certain paints to stick onto, without necessarily sinking into the wood.
Nevertheless, the thought of being able to peel paint off wood like that (I was peeling paint off steel and aluminium) is surprising - I wonder was that particular headstock originally sanded and varnished as a natural headstock, then they realised a mistake was made, and instead of resanding, they simply painted over the existing clearcoat?
This is wild speculation, but it accounts for both the paint peeling and the fact that this seems to be a one-off occurence.

All information is IMO/IME, of course.

Cheers,
SoundSupport
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#231
Johnny Alien said:
Never have I heard of a painted headstock coming off perfectly in a laminated sheet with heat. Anyone that has stripped a bass can tell you that isn't common. And if heat could do that then why would it not be more common on any modern instruments. Kevin is a really knowledgable guy with TONS of experience with everything from vintage to modern basses. I am not saying JP's lying but isn't it possible that if it was done at least on this one bass that they don't know about it? They went for years without knowing the 5 string Skylines had graphite reinforcement.
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Johnny.....dunno about your last comment so I cannot comment

Wondering if the bass may be a player mod? Never heard of a plastic headstock cover...maybe a picture would help.....Gary you have one...look at it and tell us what you think
 
#232
Mrfstop said:
But that said.
I am buying the DPLEII anywayz :D :D :D
Worked out the deal with the private seller. It is being held for me for a few days till my buyer finishes paying me up for the Stingray Stealth he just bought from me.
So I would guess maybe by mid week next week, it will have arrived and been road tested with my Mesa rig! SWEET!! :D
Another Lakland addition to the growing lil family.
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Nice....you will love it
 
#236
Ronronsola said:
Thanks to the precise posts from all of you Lakland Experts, I am getting my first one. It is going to be the Skyline DJ Natural (Adam Clayton). I hope to be picking it up between april 8th to 21st. As soon as I have it with me, I will share a picture! Time is going to track sloooooooow until then...:bassist:
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Nice....congrats! I love em.....had one on order but switched to all fivers between order and taking possession. Luckily the dealer was oversold and needed mine to fill and order!

Was a win win!

Those are super hot.....

Enjoy it! Cannot wait to hear all about it...will hope for a quick time between now and then
 
#237
SoundSupport said:
Having reconditioned a 12000 ton ex-car ferry in my gap year (very long story), where I was a painter and carpet layer, I can assure you that there ARE paints out there that peel off in very even, very thick strips when heat is applied. That said, the heat needs to be pretty extreme - a heatgun can get up to 400 degrees or so.

What really matters is the smoothness of the surface underneath, and the 'plasticyness' of the paint. A smooth, finely sanded headstock would be smooth enough for certain paints to stick onto, without necessarily sinking into the wood.
Nevertheless, the thought of being able to peel paint off wood like that (I was peeling paint off steel and aluminium) is surprising - I wonder was that particular headstock originally sanded and varnished as a natural headstock, then they realised a mistake was made, and instead of resanding, they simply painted over the existing clearcoat?
This is wild speculation, but it accounts for both the paint peeling and the fact that this seems to be a one-off occurence.

All information is IMO/IME, of course.

Cheers,
SoundSupport
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Maybe.......I would not doubt it....an already clearcoated headstock would be very slippery indeed

Cheers..
 
#238
Ronronsola said:
Thanks to the precise posts from all of you Lakland Experts, I am getting my first one. It is going to be the Skyline DJ Natural (Adam Clayton). I hope to be picking it up between april 8th to 21st. As soon as I have it with me, I will share a picture! Time is going to track sloooooooow until then...:bassist:
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Are you getting the one from Dan Lakin? Great score! I love the look of those.
 
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