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Low Down Sound Club: V2

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#821
rpsands said:
When we do soul to squeeze acoustic, folks seem to dig my bass solo in place of the breakdownish part (which sounds pretty nifty on acoustic guitar) :P It's only like 8 bars though.
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If you're going to play pop music, a bass solo should only be 8 bars long. It's really the perfect length. Just long enough to get your point across without being so long that it puts audience members to sleep. If you're really concise you could get your point across in 4 bars... I find myself considerably more long-winded... On TB... In day to day conversations... In bass solos... In this post...
 
#823
nasr20de said:
Tweeted I know not as kool as sig'd but you already sig'd it

Also I can't wait till I get the ok to spend more money on this expensive habit. I keep dreaming of a LDS 15/6 and a Orange bass terror head!
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I'm not a twitter guy, so I'm glad you've got that covered ;)

Have you tried an Orange Terror into a 15/6? Based on my experience with a VT-Bass as the sole preamp into a 15/6, I'm not sure how well that pairing would work. I think 500 watts into 8 ohms (thanks to the impedance tapping/switching keeping the same output at 4 or 8 ohms) would be sufficient, but the frequency response might end up being too narrow. The Terror, given my brief run on it, seemed pretty dark overall without much going on up top and a rolloff similar to the VT-Bass. Some people dig the VT into at 15/6. Others, myself included, really disliked it.

My experience with the Bass Terror was very limited, so my suspicions might be completely wrong, but I'd give it some consideration and if possible a real-world trial before dropping a bunch of coin.
 
#825
nasr20de said:
Thank you for the info I'm still really new(very) but I have like all the sound clips for the bass terror and the lds's. I still have (very)much to learn about voicing and such.
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Unfortunately your only real course of action is to try stuff out. Sound clips are great as a starting point, but rarely, if ever, tell the whole story. Trying out the combination with your hands, your ears and your bass will be the only determining factor that matters. If you're going for a slightly old-school rock tone with some grit/dirt, that Bass Terror is quite an incredible sounding head and might be just the thing with a 15/6. Good luck!
 
#828
Hi! an admitted bonehead here. I had a total loss house fire and the insurance will pay to replace my Mesa diesel 2x15 with what's available on the market now. (looks like powerhouse 2x15. Oh my achin back at 134 lbs!) So I want a LDS 1515/66 or somethin in the same range (3015lf) etc. and am wondering how my shuttlemax 1200 with two 4 ohm speakon outs at 600 watts per channel with no bridging etc would work. Do I need to ask Don to build a 1515/66 which has two individual speakon inputs? I know I should read the GB manual but I am buried in my insurance claim! Thanks
 
#830
Chef said:
One of my favorite Frank Zappa quotes:
"All the world hates a bass solo, so keep it short."
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"My Generation" was a life changing moment in my teens, but I really don't care at all for extended bass solos now,(which that one was not). We are such an integral and elemental part of the mix, with the drummer, as the rhythm section. I love bass accents, not solos. Same for drums. We have to teach guitards and keys how to stay tight and not wank away meaninglessly, and bore the audience! JMHO
 
#832
get a quote for a 1515/66... cash check from insurance company... blow the money on hookers and drugs... or buy any damned cab you want.

"Get two 12/6s"

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or a pair of 15/6's, either way be sure to get one of the baffles reversed so you can stack em with the mids inline vertically
 
#834
mntngrown said:
Hi! an admitted bonehead here. I had a total loss house fire and the insurance will pay to replace my Mesa diesel 2x15 with what's available on the market now. (looks like powerhouse 2x15. Oh my achin back at 134 lbs!) So I want a LDS 1515/66 or somethin in the same range (3015lf) etc. and am wondering how my shuttlemax 1200 with two 4 ohm speakon outs at 600 watts per channel with no bridging etc would work. Do I need to ask Don to build a 1515/66 which has two individual speakon inputs? I know I should read the GB manual but I am buried in my insurance claim! Thanks
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The 15s in the Fearful type boxes are 8 Ohms, so the cab would be 4 Ohms total and both sides of your S-Max would be pumping a total 0f 750 watts (375 at 8 Ohms per side).


I don't have the skills for improvised bass solos of any kind-I play folos......fills that are fleshed out a little, maybe 4 bars:D.
 
#835
lomo said:
The 15s in the Fearful type boxes are 8 Ohms, so the cab would be 4 Ohms total and both sides of your S-Max would be pumping a total 0f 750 watts (375 at 8 Ohms per side).
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I apologize if I'm missing something, but because the ShuttleMax doesn't have a bridged mode, aren't its options either:
1) 600 watts from one channel into a parallel-wired 1515/66 at 4 ohms; or
2) 375 watts from each channel into each the two "halves" of the 1515/66 at 8 ohms@?

I played Blondie (my fEarful 15/6 built by LDS) at an outside gig for the first time yesterday. It was fantastic. My bandmates couldn't believe I was getting that kind of volume and depth from a single 15" out-of-doors. It was a neighborhood party and though we were thankfully in the shade, we had no overhead cover or other physical features to help contain or direct the sound. I could imagine, however, the need for two 15" fEarfuls.

At an outdoor concert-sized event, I might actually want a second Blondie. We're under consideration for a spot on a bill at Red Rocks this summer, so I think I need to contact Don...( please don't spoil my rationalizations with any of that PA assistance crap).
 
#839
mntngrown said:
Thanks for the input. I am leaning towards the hookers and drugs option this morning.:cool:
Bluesy, as an experienced Acme guy I take it you think Blondie is as good or better than B-2's?
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Yes, I do so far; but I'm not ready to get rid of my Acmes yet. In fact, I plan to get a pair of Andy's new neo 1x12s and sell at least one B-2.

I pump 700-800 watts@ into my Low B-2s and I get plenty of volume from them, too. In fact, I've successfully used a single Low B-2 outdoors more than once. The Acmes are naturally voiced closer to my particular tone preference than my fEarful, so I can achieve my tone from the Acme with less EQ fiddling than the I can from Blondie. (This may change, however, as I become more familiar and gain more experience with my relatively new--to me--Eden VT-300 and Genz-Benz Shuttle 9.0.)

The Low B-2s are actually heavier than the larger-footprint fEarful 15/6, and I've always hated the handle configuration of the Low B-2s. Thankfully Andy is finally fixing that.

Mrs. Bluesy is very supportive of my music and doesn't complain about the dollars invested; but we're supposed to be downsizing for a move to an empty-nesters residence, so I'm trying operate under a "move-one-out-before-you-bring-another-one-in" rule. As a result, at least one Low B-2 and the Berg HTs will probably go to make room for a 12/6Cube and maybe another 15/6.

To me, if you like the unparalleled lows and limited mids and highs of the Acme, and are satisfied with the limitations inherent in that voicing, you'll continue to like them. If you prefer a broader-ranged response, with capabilities for the mids and highs that are equal to the significant lows, you'll probably prefer the fEarfuls. At the moment, I'm convinced I can't live without both!
 
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