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Mandantory Drug Tests
- Thread starter sandmangeck
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Agreed!
But the same people recieving benefits, are also in drug treatment programs that are paid for with those very benefits.
So it's all just a mess.
Perhaps better drug education is needed in elementary school, middle school, and high school to help stop kids, teens, and young adults from every picking up the sauce and developing an addiction. As they say, prevention is the best cure for most diseases.
eh. I was sent to rehab twice by court order. Both times I can say safely, just like the court system, wasn't about my rehabilitation. It was about money, and was expensive.
sure. **** em. i dont feel any compassion for people who willingly broke the law and put their own health at risk. thats their business.
if one of my friends started smoking crack tomorrow, after i got done beating his head in, id give him the chance to quit NOW with my assistance or hit the road. i have NO sympathy for those "people".
you know how people shoot zombies (including those infected with a "rage virus") with little to no moral issue? thats me with drug addicts. if they were trying to eat me (or in a real life sense trying to rob me), id shoot them in the face.
im all for that. i feel like they are doing a pretty decent job as it is, but the kids are getting dumber. its not working. they'll cut health class to go smoke a fatty in the woods.
no 10 year old ever plans on doing drugs. we've got them on the right track at that point. they all believe in god and the easter bunny and santa claus and abstinence and whatever other positive knowledge we want to impart on them.
but the second they get old enough to make their own decisions, theres not a lot most people can do for them. you cant be lectured out of rebellion or curiosity. theres no lesson plan for self destructive kids or those that dont know how to balance "feeling good" and not dying.
if it were that easy, no one would do it. everyone is aware of the risks. they just dont care.
FYP.
and this is the consequence thing im talking about. sucks for that guy. he shouldnt have made those mistakes. we are entirely too forgiving.
we will bend over backwards for people that are stricken by tragedy (which i whole heartily condone), the same way we do for someone who had a perfectly good shot and blew it. asinine.
drug treatment programs shouldn't be government funded. we are feeling sorry for people that voluntarily destroyed their own lives.
it wouldnt be a mess if we weren't such saps
Well its a good thing you're part of fanatic minority, and the majority of the human race has compassion for its fellow man.
because you are trying to make a grey area black and white. you can't just say "because you fail a drug test, we won't give you gov't money" But you fail to look inside their life, as well as failing to look at the repercussions. Sure, your deadbeat friends are taking advantage of the system, but failing a drug test doesn't imply that they are using that money to buy drugs.
I hear there are no taxes in Somalia. Of course, they don't have much in the way of schools, public libraries, health services, highways, safe drinking water, safe food,... and almost as many guns as we have.
I have no desire to see my country become a Somalia. If it takes paying taxes, then so be it. If that is wealth redistribution to you, then that's just too bad. Suck it up and pay your taxes like the rest of us.
You mean like approximately 53% of us, right?
The poor have little or no income to pay taxes on. the middle class pays the bulk of the taxes, that leaves the very wealthy and corporations that are not paying their fair share. For example, Exxon paid $0 in taxes in 2009 despite $10.3 Billion in pretax earnings. Apparently, ALL profits were attributed to overseas holdings and the losses all came from the US holdings (wink wink). Earnings for hedge fund managers are counted as capital gains and taxed at a wopping 15% instead of the 25 - 35% most of us pay.
Yep, we all should pay our fair share. 
There are other taxes besides the income tax.You mean like approximately 53% of us, right?
The poor have little or no income to pay taxes on. the middle class pays the bulk of the taxes, that leaves the very wealthy and corporations that are not paying their fair share. For example, Exxon paid $0 in taxes in 2009 despite $10.3 Billion in pretax earnings. Apparently, ALL profits were attributed to overseas holdings and the losses all came from the US holdings (wink wink). Earnings for hedge fund managers are counted as capital gains and taxed at a wopping 15% instead of the 25 - 35% most of us pay.
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That is pure fiction.
"The latest data show that a big portion of the federal income tax burden is shoul*dered by a small group of the very richest Americans. The wealthiest 1 percent of the population earn 19 per*cent of the income but pay 37 percent of the income tax. The top 10 percent pay 68 percent of the tab. Meanwhile, the bottom 50 percentthose below the median income levelnow earn 13 percent of the income but pay just 3 percent of the taxes. These are proportions of the income tax alone and dont include payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare."
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I hear there are no taxes in Somalia. Of course, they don't have much in the way of schools, public libraries, health services, highways, safe drinking water, safe food,... and almost as many guns as we have.
I have no desire to see my country become a Somalia. If it takes paying taxes, then so be it. If that is wealth redistribution to you, then that's just too bad. Suck it up and pay your taxes like the rest of us.
I think the original context was not "are taxes good or bad?" (which is a whole 'nother thread, my answer being "it depends on specifics") but "what is the moral difference between spending welfare money on drugs and spending mortgage interest deduction money on drugs?"
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