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My rented backline adventures

#461
BurningSkies said:
If you need a big rig, let me know. I have my FF + Monique about 3 miles away from there. I might even have the night off. :) Also, the Fair has had some management and contract change overs so who knows. If you're in an 'emergency' situation also let me know.
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Yep, those management changes were part of the reason we haven't been back in a while. Thx for the offer, but I'm sure I'll be fine. You're welcome to come out, though...don't know about comps but I might be able to swing it.
 
#463
JimmyM said:
Sorry, nope. We just do that show and leave for home the next day. Will let you know next time we're close, though it doesn't happen very often.
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2pm start time, Jimmy. :( I'm not going to make it to the actual show. If you do find yourself in a dire backline situation, let me know and I'll make some excuse to walk away from work for an hour or so. Also, it's 'senior days' at the Fair, lulz.
 
#465
JimmyM said:
Oh shut up! Bad enough I'll have a 10 am soundcheck!

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We got the offer to play the Pan African Village there (we usually get the offer), but it's such a pain in the ass to get in and out that we said no, although our drummer is there with his African drum/dance group tonight before our gig. Tonight's gig is about 2 blocks behind the fair, which pretty much screws our load-in and parking plans. Oh well. It pays better than a Fair gig does for us anyway.
 
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#466
will33 said:
Likewise if Mr. M ever makes it out this way.


I'm a fan of that whole genre of 50's/60's singing group music they do. Even sang bass in a DooWop group in school and remember watching Sha-na-na on TV as a kid.
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Hey Will - yes we need to get that Jimmy boy up here in our area for sure!

I have an old 1950's type 1929 Model A Hot Rod named Bernadine. A friend of mine, Dawn Landes has a Lennon Sister's type 3-girl vocal thing called the "Bandana Splits". In her own thing she has been touring with Brian Ferry a good part of this year.

Anyways, my Dad and my Uncle built the car and they named it after the Pat Boone song and movie of the same name "Bernadine" from 1958. Bernadine is the perfect "unattainable" woman and in the song they talk about a "rocket-powered car".

Anyways, the Bandana Splits are re-cutting the track in September and we are using the car in the video for the song. Pretty cool.

Here are the splits:



And here is the car I inherited from my father:

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And a bass to match :bassist::bassist::bassist::bassist::

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Car freeks are welcome to go here for more:

http://www.indiefinancialnetwork.com/hotrod.html

BassHappy
 
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#467
bluesblaster said:
really ? its a fridge or nothing for you than ? I guess if your playing heavy metal than maybe I can see your point, however Geddy got rid of his onstage rig and seems no worse for it.
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Never said that.

I was disagreeing about the "much-enhanced" rhetoric. It shouldn't be "much-enhanced," it should be EQ'd for the room and nothing more, otherwise as close as possible to the sound coming off my speakers. The amp and cab are part of my instrument.

Also, monitors suck for bass. If they're even there. If there's even PA support for bass at all.

Sure, I can make things work even if the situation is ideal... but that doesn't mean I'm going to be pleased about it.

Comparing people's situations with Geddy's is ridiculous and you know it. If that works for him, great, but I'm not playing in Rush, and even if I was, I'd still prefer an onstage rig.
 
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#468
Dude, settle down........... what I meant was that the house system is far more powerful than your onstage amp, What the FOH sound engineer does out there is his/her business, thats what they get payed for, Im more interested in talking to the monitor guy. Yeah, I would prefer an onstage amp as well but I have done fine going direct to the house system, if done properly it works just fine. I have no idea what kinds of systems you might be dealing with but I was refering to pro type systems. Obviously if you are using a small "club" P.A. you probably dont even need to go through the board.
 
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bluesblaster said:
Dude, settle down........... what I meant was that 1. the house system is far more powerful than your onstage amp, What the FOH sound engineer does out there 2. is his/her business, thats what they get payed for, Im more interested in talking to the 3. monitor guy. Yeah, I would prefer an onstage amp as well but I have done fine going direct to the house system, 4. if done properly it works just fine. I have no idea what kinds of systems you might be dealing with but I was refering to pro type systems. Obviously if you are using a small "club" P.A. you probably dont even need to go through the board.
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1. Not always. Again, if there even is bass in the PA, which there isn't always.

2. Pretty sure what the FOH sound "engineer" (that's being very generous in many cases) does to the band's sound is the band's business, too. And once that person is doing anything but EQing to adjust for the room, that gets into the realm of producing... which most certainly is not what they get paid for.

3. "Monitor guy"? Are you implying that there is a separate person who just does monitors? My, aren't we getting fancy.

4. Key phrase there. That's a very big "if."

I have been talked into going straight into the board, no amp whatsoever, before, and hearing myself only through monitors, a few times. It's always been utterly awful. Pay me enough and I might agree to play that way, but I'll do a lot of things I hate if the reward is good enough.
 
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Well obviously our individual experiences differ, most sound companies have there own techs so we hope they know what they're doing, as you would expect some are better than others, FOH does just that and yes there is often a seperate monitor mix on the stage with bigger systems. Im not going to tell the sound company how to do there job, I can ask for particular instruments or voices in my monitor, but ultimatly once the show starts its in there hands, your busy doing your own job. If you have the luxury of having your very own sound crew than maybe you can boss em around.
 
#474
JOE EDO said:
Tuesday is "Beef Day" at the NYS Fair!
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Every day is beef day at my house. :)

I'm currently in 'do everything possible to avoid the fair' mode...Had to hit 690 to make it out to pick up gear on Friday night @ 6pm for our gig and had a 45 minute backup due to fair+fair-induced-accident. Luckily, I could back road on Milton Ave. to the gig...
 
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Welp, Senior Beef Day has come and gone but the rig they gave me was pretty darn good:

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04 SVT-CL with a 99 810en, mic'ed with a Beyer M88, which is a primo bass cab mic. Went small for this trip since it was only a 70 minute set in the middle of the day and we only backed up the show and didn't do anything by ourselves. So I left the REDDI at home and just went VTD. Now that I've been using it a month or so, it's good and tweaked now...got clean, moderately dirty, and near-fuzz programmed into it. Miss that tube DI sound but I'd like to think I still sounded good ;) Night Ranger's Jack Blades is using the same amp for their show...probably finishing up about now. Wish I could have stayed but we have a 4:30 am lobby call, and I'd be up all night if I had stayed.

The pressure to perform was on today since there were two bass players in the audience. One was Gary Lewis And The Playboys' bassist Dominick with the last name I can't spell. The other was our own Joe Edo! Met him and his 4 year old son at soundcheck and had a nice little conversation with them. Probably the easiest gig I've had in years. No rehearsing, just a brief soundcheck, then 75 minutes and we were gone. Every gig should be like that.

EDIT: Just noticed I said we did 70 and 75 minutes. We were scheduled for 70 but went over 5. Happens.
 
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JimmyM said:
Welp, Senior Beef Day has come and gone but the rig they gave me was pretty darn good:

RigNYSFair2014_zps318464d8.jpg


04 SVT-CL with a 99 810en, mic'ed with a Beyer M88, which is a primo bass cab mic. Went small for this trip since it was only a 70 minute set in the middle of the day and we only backed up the show and didn't do anything by ourselves. So I left the REDDI at home and just went VTD. Now that I've been using it a month or so, it's good and tweaked now...got clean, moderately dirty, and near-fuzz programmed into it. Miss that tube DI sound but I'd like to think I still sounded good ;) Night Ranger's Jack Blades is using the same amp for their show...probably finishing up about now. Wish I could have stayed but we have a 4:30 am lobby call, and I'd be up all night if I had stayed.

The pressure to perform was on today since there were two bass players in the audience. One was Gary Lewis And The Playboys' bassist Dominick with the last name I can't spell. The other was our own Joe Edo! Met him and his 4 year old son at soundcheck and had a nice little conversation with them. Probably the easiest gig I've had in years. No rehearsing, just a brief soundcheck, then 75 minutes and we were gone. Every gig should be like that.
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JOE EDO said:
Jimmy,

Thanks so much for taking time before the gig to talk. You are an extremely gracious gentleman and my son was thrilled to meet the guy with the flower pot on his head :). Great sound our of your set up and your playing was in the moment and in the pocket all day long. It was an honor and an "experience"....

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Great stuff Jimmy!

Being a transplanted Indiana boy, but a certified New Yorker since 1981, I can say I was proud that you were presented with a fine rig - a rig that must have made you feel pretty close to home!

May all your gigs be as blessed.

BassHappy
 
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