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Never ceases to amaze me...

I joined TB to...

  • Learn

  • Teach

  • Purposely bait people into arguments

  • Be with like minded people who share the same passion

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#41
Half the reason I've been here for so long is to try and help stem the tide of BS I've seen on here from unqualified people, half the reason is because of the amazing amount of highly qualified people who know way more about certain topics than I do, half the reason is because it's got a butt-ton of regular viewers and participants and I'm a big ham.

If you're willing to take a little time to sort the wheat from the chaff, it can be a valuable resource for bassists. If you're not, then it just ends up being just as frustrating as any other online forum.
 
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#44
I've been playing for 31 years now and primarily joined to learn from others, but to also share a little insight where I actually have some (and to sell a bass or two ;) - which has yet to happen). One thing I've learned is to take most things with a grain of salt and to resist getting dragged into pointless arguments, which is why I rarely post. If I think I can legitimately help someone, I'll put it out there but otherwise I try to maintain my lurker status.
 
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#46
Yeah I came here to share the love of bass and be with like minded people. Lately I can't help but point out certain elements that ruin the experience.

Probably my least favourite is the stock "we're gonna need more information to help you..." response. The guy just said "I have x bass, x amp, have x, y and z influences, help me out". There have also been twenty useful responses before you got all smug.

The other is the people who respond to a question with one word or phrase as if that is the authoritative answer. "I want an overdrive I love the Boss, Ibanez and Mooer options who has experience with them?" And you know someone will answer "darkglass" with no explanation or further insight.

It's the same around the internet and in the "real world". People absorbing sound bites and spitting them back out without digesting them. I suppose it makes them feel knowledgable.

Gah.

But yeah 99% of you are great and I love reading through the interesting threads and enjoy the differing opinions and ideas. Just some of you need to open yourselves up to the idea that those opinions might be at least as valid as your own.
 
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#47
bass40hz said:
I am amazed at how with such great speed, and with such gusto, other brothers and sisters of the bottom end, will challenge you, argue with you, state "facts", whether true or not, when you reply to a question or a post. Hell, most of the time the OP is asking a specific question such as " I am interested in amp A and B, does anyone have experience with either?" And then you see posts like "what strings are you using", "are your pickups at the correct height"...I mean really people, we are all passionate about playing, about gear and we all love to talk about it sharing knowledge or a story or just an opinion, me included, but I gotta tell ya we all need to keep it in check. I'm just saying....

BTW - I am prepared for the slams, the slurs, the jabs...all of it, I just had to put this out there. Rock on fellow bottom bringers.
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You cannot mix cab drivers. Then again, I have personally never seen a cab with more than one driver.
 
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#49
I joined to learn more.

This forum is just like any of the many other (non-music) forums I am on. There are always people who think that you have to know everything about something to answer a basic question. Like someone on a car specific forum just asking about something simple, and someone always comes along and insists on knowing things like cam specs, timing, compression ratios, etc. The OP just wanted to know what air freshener works good. :roflmao: OK, maybe a slight exaggeration, but not far off.

And those who think the only answer is always "their" favorite type of X.

And those who's favorite answer is "use the search function", although I don't see that here as much as I do on other forums.

If you guys think this forum is bad, how many of you remember Usenet forums?:D

Russ
 
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#50
I hear what you're saying, and can agree with some of where you're coming from. But I think you might be misunderstanding how an open forum works in the less than ideal "real world."

When you post on an internet forum such as this one, the topic is yours to choose, but it then becomes anybody else who participates to discuss. You don't get to take ownership of a thread once it's posted. Nobody gets paid to consult around here. So they're free to take any question anywhere they want.

You have the option of ignoring anything you don't care to read; or disregard any question you don't want to answer. As does everybody else who participates.

Many times what you may think of as a 'challenge' is merely somebody trying to get additional details, or clarify something, that they feel may be relevant in order to answer your question to the best of their ability. If entering into that sort of dialog isn't your thing, then a forum such as this one probably isn't something you want to do.

Best ask your question and roll with where it goes. If it strays to far OT from what you're looking for, you can always (politely) suggest people are getting away from your specific question. And then ask it again.

You also need to be a little open minded when it comes to hearing what people have to say. If your question is so specific that you only want an A or B recommendation from somebody who owned and played through two specific amps, odds are pretty good you'll get few if any answers. Because the likelihood of somebody having owned and played both the exact two models you're asking about is pretty small. You might only get one answer. Or none.

Being a little less confrontational ("Never ceases to amaze me...") and a little less defensive ("I am prepared for the slams, the slurs, the jabs...all of it...") might also go a small way towards keeping the open dialog flowing.

To paraphrase St. Mick: "I know...it's only TalkBass...but I like it." And as you yourself said: "Rock on..."

Hang in there and try not to let the place get to you. It is what it is. :thumbsup::)

P.S. I see myself as a perpetual student, or "lifelong learner" to use the colloquial expression. I joined TB primarily to learn, and share what I've learned second.
 
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#52
russosborne said:
I joined to learn more.

This forum is just like any of the many other (non-music) forums I am on. There are always people who think that you have to know everything about something to answer a basic question. Like someone on a car specific forum just asking about something simple, and someone always comes along and insists on knowing things like cam specs, timing, compression ratios, etc. The OP just wanted to know what air freshener works good. :roflmao: OK, maybe a slight exaggeration, but not far off.

And those who think the only answer is always "their" favorite type of X.

And those who's favorite answer is "use the search function", although I don't see that here as much as I do on other forums.

If you guys think this forum is bad, how many of you remember Usenet forums?:D

Russ
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I used to own a Smart ForFour Brabus (really!) and so was a member on said forum. The owner of the forum would go nuts deleting posts that had been answered somewhere else in the past ten years - he saw the forum not as a meeting place of minds but as an encyclopaedia for knowledge. He had a point I suppose but it made for a boring forum.
 
#53
AshInAmsterdam said:
I used to own a Smart ForFour Brabus (really!) and so was a member on said forum. The owner of the forum would go nuts deleting posts that had been answered somewhere else in the past ten years - he saw the forum not as a meeting place of minds but as an encyclopaedia for knowledge. He had a point I suppose but it made for a boring forum.
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That's pretty sad. Because a forum is the wrong tool to use if you want to maintain a structured and curated knowledgebase.

He should have set it up as a wiki rather than a discussion forum.

That's the tool you want to use for creating a peer contributed reference site.
 
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#54
Years ago I got stoned and passed out on a very fast train…

Many hours later, I was roused from a dream by some indecipherable babbling. Some scowling foreigner in a shabby blue uniform was tickling me in the ribs with a mop-handle, hell bent apparently on herding me off the train and into the darkness.

I have no idea where I've ended up. Nothing seems familiar - by a railway-siding somewhere I think, at the end of the line, I guess. I've entered a huge maze or an impenetrable jungle of some kind. There's a yellow brick road winding away forever. Many twists and turns. Burritos grow on trees. Lemonade springs. There's always music, always dancing. I'm lost but it's kinda fun. I can hear what sounds like laughter, a babbling brook, just around the next corner :)
 
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bass40hz said:
I am amazed at how with such great speed, and with such gusto, other brothers and sisters of the bottom end, will challenge you, argue with you, state "facts", whether true or not, when you reply to a question or a post. Hell, most of the time the OP is asking a specific question such as " I am interested in amp A and B, does anyone have experience with either?" And then you see posts like "what strings are you using", "are your pickups at the correct height"...I mean really people, we are all passionate about playing, about gear and we all love to talk about it sharing knowledge or a story or just an opinion, me included, but I gotta tell ya we all need to keep it in check. I'm just saying....

BTW - I am prepared for the slams, the slurs, the jabs...all of it, I just had to put this out there. Rock on fellow bottom bringers.
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I saw the thread that, I assume, prompted you to post this. Honestly, I thought those that corrected you were fairly kind.
 
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#58
bass40hz said:
There's a lot of good people here, some I recognize posting here as we've posted in the same forums before, it's good to know members like @Killed_by_Death and @Spidey2112 are with me.
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Would someone educate me on posting an individual subject like this one? Thank You! Was trying to get some advice or help,on a For Sale post,and was told to start my own post,by one of the persons commenting that was not even their For Sale post?
 
#59
Welcome to the free internet fourms.

a place were validation is constantly confused with information.

Don't like an answer to your question? No prob just keep reading, someone will surely commiserate within a page or two

It's the interwebs, it's what we do.
 
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