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New Tech 21 Geddy Lee DI-2112

#104
So I've been doing some reading and watching reviews etc. I understand that there is a internal switch or something that can sum the drive out and deep out so that all outputs send a blend of both outputs. That's a cool option.

As a previous RPM owner (I really regret selling that preamp) looking at the drive channel it is exactly the same as the old RPM (or current Para Driver DI) and I never had a need for more lows with the RPM going to PA and power amp for my stage rig. So the deep channel is really getting a clean unaffected signal out to the desk (or saturated if you choose, as well as the driven channel?) rather than adding extra lows? Considering the Drive channel has a blend on it already to blend between dry and processed signal, what does adding in the deep channel do differently?

Sorry if I am missing something here.
 
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I have a GED-2112, so I assume they're similar. What you have is basically three signal paths: an unaffected dry signal, a pre EQ DI, if you will, controlled by the blend. It kinda of keeps the integrity of the signal intact. The Deep which adds punchy low mids that forms the core of the tone and the Drive that adds OD and upper mids that cut through. Blend to taste
 
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Rocksolid said:
So I've been doing some reading and watching reviews etc. I understand that there is a internal switch or something that can sum the drive out and deep out so that all outputs send a blend of both outputs. That's a cool option.

As a previous RPM owner (I really regret selling that preamp) looking at the drive channel it is exactly the same as the old RPM (or current Para Driver DI) and I never had a need for more lows with the RPM going to PA and power amp for my stage rig. So the deep channel is really getting a clean unaffected signal out to the desk (or saturated if you choose, as well as the driven channel?) rather than adding extra lows? Considering the Drive channel has a blend on it already to blend between dry and processed signal, what does adding in the deep channel do differently?

Sorry if I am missing something here.
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The "Drive" is pretty much an RPM and the "Deep" has an eq curve that Geddy uses. I find it helps to retain a nice strong low/mid signal without getting too "bassy" It is quite the subtle, yet dramatic, effect.
 
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Rocksolid said:
Such a natural sounding over drive. The Dirty channel on my Super Bassman is dialed in so similar to the tone you are using here.

Can the outputs of the Drive and deep channels be combined to one output on the rack mount unit the same as this desk top version? Maybe @dStar knows also?
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Yes both outputs can be summed into one as I have it here.
 
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Gefilter1001 said:
Yes I do
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If anyone deserves to have a 2112 tattoo, and not in an ironic way, it's Tim Starace.

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Kijuer said:
A Programmable Bass Driver version...I'd kill to have one. And yes, I stole your pic :p

@tech21nyc how much for a custom build?

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Yes, this ^ . From you lips to God's ears. (Or Ged's ears, as the case may be.) I thought about buying more than one YYZ pedal for that purpose, but it seemed like overkill. A preset version of the DI-2112 would get my money in a heartbeat.
 
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Indiedog said:
Very cool! Congrats!
Please tell us what you think once you have played with it.

Did you own or use any of the other Geddy products from Tech 21 before getting the DI?
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Now that I've used the di-2112 a couple of times for rehearsals, I can say it's great.
Perfect to cut through the mix.
My other band members are happy with it as well.
I plugged it in the first time and they were all stunned. The only thing they complain about is the volume. I like to play loud ;)
 
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Hendricks97 said:
Just got mine today. I wish the combine switch was easier to get to. I would love right be able to combine them at home and separate them at the studio
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Agree. I know it's made to Geddy's specs, but there are a couple of things I'd like to have front switches for. A tight switch, the combine switch, and effects loop bypass, to name a few. It's not the most convenient, but it sounds pretty great.

I got my rack version the other night. I gotta say at first I really hated it. I was mad that I just spent so much money on this stupid thing. It did not sound good. I love the YYZ pedal soooo much, but I don't really like the pedal without the "tight" switch engaged, because it's too farty for my purposes. I don't really want to sound exactly like Geddy. The tight switch on the YYZ pedal gives it this sweet grindy distortion that I just love. But there's no tight switch on the rackmount. I fiddled with it for a loooong time, but could not get it to sound as good as the pedal.

Then I did a little more soul searching and forum searching, and learned about the internal mods you can do to the rackmount. Now I like it a lot more. I can't say that I like it a TON more than the pedal. But a little more. And it's more convenient for my new (back to the old) rack setup. The pedal is really easy to dial in a usable tone with. At least a tone that I'm happy with, which is just a hint of grindy distortion. The rackmount does a lot more, but somehow seems less intuitive because there are more options. Even though it shares many controls with the YYZ pedal, the controls don't do the exact same thing or don't respond exactly as they do on the pedal. Not that they should, necessarily. For example, if I set the controls like EQ and blend the same as I have them on the pedal, it doesn't really sound like the pedal. It takes time to really understand and dial it in.

It took a lot . . . a lot . . . more tweaking with the rackmount to get it where I like it. But I do like it now that I understand better how the knobs interact and how it all works. It's fantastic. It can do a lot more than the pedal, but I don't need all of the extra ins and outs and some of the features that it offers. I'll likely never send two signals for bass somewhere, but it's nice to have that option if I ever want to. If I didn't want to consolidate as much as possible in my rack, I'd be perfectly fine keeping the pedal. But now that I've got it dialed in, it sounds so great.

I think the two biggest advantages that the rackmount has over the pedal are a separate saturation knob for the deep channel, and the clean blend on the drive channel. It's just enough to give it an edge, in my opinion. I think some of those features are on the tabletop 2112 version as well. But I never really looked into that one because I wasn't interested.

All in all, though, the pedal sounds just as good in all the ways that matter to me, and though it's not as versatile, it's sooooo much easier to dial in a great tone with. If I wasn't going rackmount, I'd be perfectly happy with the pedal.
 
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