NPD: SA Aftershock

[DELACIUS]

I was sending MIDI to the AfterShock over USB from Logic Pro X for the quick switching. Here's a blog I wrote, giving an in-depth rundown of each section in that demo.

The Vertigo Tremolo, Lunar Phaser, Gemini Chorus, and Mercury Flager have tap tempo available via Source Audio External Footswitch, or MIDI clock via the Neuro Hub or over USB.


Nice! If you're not using it already, check out the AfterShock's "Stereo In, Stereo Out" I/O Routing Option. This will allow you to keep both audio signal separate, and you'll be able to make EQ tweaks to both signals individually, using the Channel 1 and Channel 2 controls within the Neuro Desktop or Mobile App. HPF and LPF are not covered as a reassignable knob option. The current options available are Bass Level, Treble Level, Bass Frequency, Treble Frequency, Mid A Level, Mid A Frequency, Mid A Q, Mid B Level, Mid B Frequency, Mid B Q, Clean Mix, Distortion Mix, Voice, and Voice Frequency. The knob control parameters are applied to both channels.

An external foot switch can only be used for toggling. The Neuro Hub can expand the AfterShock's number of presets from six to 128 when used with a MIDI controller, and the Soleman has multiple modes for stepping through presets while having additional parameter controls open.

Thanks you Nathan, so much!!!! Love your stuff!!

 

[Ens0r]

Any news on updates for the Aftershock?
Like asigning one knob to "blend" between two chosen drive engines?

 

[nnavarro]

Ok, cool This is on 1.05, I think?

Two small questions/feature requests...

(1) Do any of these function as a "state independent" footswitch, like the newly added functionality for the Nemesis and Ventris? That would be cool. (And I did have a workaround for issue I talked to you about over e-mail; the way the Nemesis is currently implemented works great for me.)

(2) Any chance of a MIDI control to directly access the 6 on-pedal presets without involving Hub scenes? (I think that's been discussed in this thread before...)

1) Nothing covers that currently. I've noted your feedback. I'm glad to hear it's working well for you on the Nemesis!
2) Noted again.

Any news on updates for the Aftershock?
Like asigning one knob to "blend" between two chosen drive engines?

Still working on it. Thank you for your patience.

 

[Bryan R. Tyler]

Is there way to turn off the “knobs retain their preset position” function? I’m having a bit of an issue where bumping the volume knob after switching a preset can jack the volume up a large amount.

 

[dave_bass5]

You just hold the foot switch down for a few seconds, until the small red LED goes green. Then its back to normal mode.

 

[Bryan R. Tyler]

You just hold the foot switch down for a few seconds, until the small red LED goes green. Then its back to normal mode.

No, I don’t mean how to switch back-and-forth between preset mode and normal mode. When the pedal is engaged, all of the parameters instantly jump to their saved value, regardless of the knob positions. I was seeing if there was a way to turn that off.

 

[dave_bass5]

Sorry, I’m totally lost. Red mode is the mode where you recall preset knob positions, regardless of the physical positions.
What you seem to be describing sounds like red LED mode. Touching any of the knobs instantly causes that parameter to jump to the physical knob position.
Guess you mean something else?

 

[Bryan R. Tyler]

No, you’re correct in that this only happens when and red mode a.k.a. preset mode. I just wanted to know if this was something we can disable while in preset mode

 

[dave_bass5]

No, you’re correct in that this only happens when and red mode a.k.a. preset mode. I just wanted to know if this was something we can disable while in preset mode

Ah right, I see. Ive not really done much in the way of programming this thing. Maybe its possible to set the knobs to something that wont make a huge difference if its moved?

 

[nnavarro]

No, you’re correct in that this only happens when and red mode a.k.a. preset mode. I just wanted to know if this was something we can disable while in preset mode

Hi Bryan,
To confirm, when changing presets in Preset Mode, you would like the knob parameter values to be recalled as they were saved, but if a knob is bumped, you don't want the parameter value to jump to the current knob position. Is this correct?

We don't currently offer any configuration options for this, but I'm happy to note your feedback and relay it along. Is this feature request aimed at addressing a performance type situation, or for general sound editing? Depending on the use, potential options such as a "disable knobs" mode, or knob scaling might work better.

 

[Bryan R. Tyler]

Hi Bryan,
To confirm, when changing presets in Preset Mode, you would like the knob parameter values to be recalled as they were saved, but if a knob is bumped, you don't want the parameter value to jump to the current knob position. Is this correct?

We don't currently offer any configuration options for this, but I'm happy to note your feedback and relay it along. Is this feature request aimed at addressing a performance type situation, or for general sound editing? Depending on the use, potential options such as a "disable knobs" mode, or knob scaling might work better.

I’d personally like the option of them not retaining the value as they were saved, so that they would act as the knobs do when in green mode, or as any other pedal works. It offers a consistency when you can rely on the knobs always relaying exactly what settings they’re showing when switching between presets I’ve found that when playing with my band, it’s more of a hindrance when the knobs don’t actually give the correct information because the preset is recalling the saved settings.

 

[rsmith601]

I’d personally like the option of them not retaining the value as they were saved, so that they would act as the knobs do when in green mode, or as any other pedal works. It offers a consistency when you can rely on the knobs always relaying exactly what settings they’re showing when switching between presets I’ve found that when playing with my band, it’s more of a hindrance when the knobs don’t actually give the correct information because the preset is recalling the saved settings.

What you describe is exactly the point of normal (green mode). What you see is what you get, always.
So, you want preset mode (red mode) to act like green mode so that you get 6 green mode presets. Right?

 

[s_wood]

What you describe is exactly the point of normal (green mode). What you see is what you get, always.
So, you want preset mode (red mode) to act like green mode so that you get 6 green mode presets. Right?

I would like that option, too, if it were available.

 

[bassmonkeee]

I would like that option, too, if it were available.

I, too, would find that to be desirable.

 

[dave_bass5]

Thats a pretty cool idea. I also like how the VTbass deluxe gives you an indication via flashing lights of how close/away you are getting to where the knob is actually set. I believe it goes solid once the knob is at the point of where it was programmed.

 

[BigBeatNut]

Thats a pretty cool idea. I also like how the VTbass deluxe gives you an indication via flashing lights of how close/away you are getting to where the knob is actually set. I believe it goes solid once the knob is at the point of where it was programmed.

There’s an alternative solution that could be combined with that, but I can’t remember who implemented it. The idea is that when you move a pot on a preset, nothing happens till the pots position passes the preset position, at that point the pot becomes live. It may be that was what the tech 21 pedals did.

Of course, it looks like others don’t want this solution, but it would lessen the volume/parameter jumps when using a neuro preset mode at present.

 

[Adamixoye]

There’s an alternative solution that could be combined with that, but I can’t remember who implemented it. The idea is that when you move a pot on a preset, nothing happens till the pots position passes the preset position, at that point the pot becomes live. It may be that was what the tech 21 pedals did.

Of course, it looks like others don’t want this solution, but it would lessen the volume/parameter jumps when using a neuro preset mode at present.

Eventide called this "catchup" mode on the older Factor pedals.

 

[Matthew_84]

I’m not too experienced with pedals, and have no experience on a gig with one, but I don’t really understand the advantage of changing presets while keeping the volume level based on the physical Level pot’s place. Depending on the different presets settings (such as level of drive, blend, EQ, etc), wouldn’t these presets have a different output level, even if the Level pot was in the same spot?

If so, wouldn’t you get more consistency by saving all of the presets to have the same level of output (by ear, not by the parameter/pot value)?

 

[JimmyM]

I’m not too experienced with pedals, and have no experience on a gig with one, but I don’t really understand the advantage of changing presets while keeping the volume level based on the physical Level pot’s place. Depending on the different presets settings (such as level of drive, blend, EQ, etc), wouldn’t these presets have a different output level, even if the Level pot was in the same spot?

If so, wouldn’t you get more consistency by saving all of the presets to have the same level of output (by ear, not by the parameter/pot value)?

That's my belief.

 

[dave_bass5]

I think one issue could be that if you have a high gain patch, and program that in to the red mode, touching the level knob can cause a huge jump in volume if the physical position is a lot higher than the programmed level.
None of this is an issue for me, as I only use green mode now. I have 3 presets that are all set with the same level knob position.