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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club
- Thread starter Stumbo
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I never got billed...so I guess mine was no charge!
After lurking on this thread for months I just put my deposit down on a super twin. I can't wait!!!!
Question for those with experience...can a cab like the super twin really come close to the volume of an 8x10? I would love to have a smaller cabinet that can give me similar headroom/volume as my Ampeg 810. The head I'm using is the Mesa D800.
If the Super Twin performs like all their other cabs, the answer is definitely yes. I have a One10, and it sounds twice as loud as it should.
Not a barefaced cab but I played through a Greenboy F212 and it sounded massive.... the low end was wicked and clear... I own a Bodai112 and demo'd it against my GK Neo 212 cabs x 2 and the single 12" cab was louder, deeper and hit harder than 4 GK brand 12" speakers... all cabs played though a D800.
I'm drooling over a Super Twin myself as I don't feel I'll miss any low end from the BT2. the 410 also has my interest and it would be great to hear those 3 cabs side by side to get a comparison on how different they sound.
Jackcrow,
Although there are actually two Ampeg 8x10 in the rehearsal room besides my own, I have not yet compared the two to my Super Twin. Maybe I'll do that tonight. What I can tell you right now is, with my Orange Terror Bass 500, I could EASILY drown the rest of the band including the drummer. And when it gets crazy monster loud, it never loses its low end. I played it in small to medium sized rooms (a big stage gig is coming by the end of october), and outside on a school yard with no walls whatsoever anywhere near. I have never sounded close to this good before when playing outside, absolutely no lack of fundamental/bottom, and easily loud enough without pushing the amp at all.
The last big stage I played with the Super Twin's smaller brother, the Super Compact (I had that one befor I switched to the Super Twin). I chose to play over the Compact even though there was a huge Ashdown 15 plus 2x10 fridge right beside it. The Super Compact was easily as loud and sounded deeper and more round, plus more defined. For the Super Twin, multiply the results....
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Sidecar
Lately I've experimented with how to track the acoustic bass guitar. None of the usual recording books / resources cover this topic. Too bad because with the right tracking technique, you can get amazing tone from an ABG. This video, How to Record Acoustic Bass Guitar presents principles and comparative demos of tracking it with:
PDF script of this video available at:
Script - How to Record the Acoustic Bass Guitar.pdf
I'll cross-post this info in a few other threads that provide sonic insights with specific gear used in case readers are not watching this forum.
Hope it's useful for you!
- Acoustic – with microphone
- Pickup – straight into DI
- Pickup – via tube preamp / DI
- Cabinet – with microphone
- Blend – tube DI & mic'd cabinet
PDF script of this video available at:
Script - How to Record the Acoustic Bass Guitar.pdf
I'll cross-post this info in a few other threads that provide sonic insights with specific gear used in case readers are not watching this forum.
Hope it's useful for you!
I bought 2 of Alex's 1x12" cabs expecting to have to use both most of the time but to this day I've only done it once. And even then it was just because I could. 2 of the 12" drivers, such as in the super twin will easily match or outpace pretty much anything and is way more volume than anyone short of a doom band with no PA would ever need.
Tone is subjective, volume is pretty much fact. Everyone needs different amounts of volume granted, but even the reviewers who dislike BF for any number of reasons never complain that they lack volume.
Which 1x12 did you get? SM, BB2, SC? I have a SM and a BB2, and agree that i seldom if ever "need" both... but nice to be able to anyway. Just curious as to which you have.
EDIT: hold on, just read your signature area, looks like you have two FR800's. Those, plus the LF1400, constitute my dream PA cab setup. Maybe some day.
I've just done a brief comparison of the super twin and an Ampeg 8x10, both driven with my Terror Bass 500, all settings equal.
At 9 o'clock volume and gain, tone not really flat but "my usual tone" (treble rolled back, mids and bass 2 o'clock), they sound surprisingly similar (not too similar really, but I would have thought the difference to be bigger). The Super Twin seemed slightly more barky and aggressive and at least as loud as the Ampeg.
At 12 o'clock volume (the rest unchanged), the Ampeg seemed to tighten up in the lows and instead get that "punch in the gut" lower mid thing going. Actually quite pleasant and rather loud. Now, the Super Twin was WAY fatter in the low end and excited lots of things in the room because of this. This makes it feel like the cab is less tight but it really isn't- it's just the drums and other things in the rather small room got going. Tons of really big lows, really barky and yes, it felt at least as loud as the 8x10, probably a little louder.
I didn't go past 12 I clock this time. I have before with my Super Twin, and it's really scary. At 3 or 4 o'clock, cavity fillings in your teeth are likely lo loosen, and watch your windows. Without any fartout, it's getting ridiculously loud. Beyond what anyone could need, I'd say.
So, with the Super Twin, you'll want a little less bass from the amp at high volumes, since the cab doesn't tighten up, for lack of a better word. Volume wise, the two are absolutely in the same ballpark.
Hope that helps.
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Sidecar
I took the plunge and ordered a Super Twin following an email discussion with Alex, which arrived today. Sounds amazing in the short time I've had to play with it so far. Throwing it straight into a gig tonight and can't wait to hear it in anger!
So did my girlfriend, but it didn't put me off trying on the first night
Dude.So did my girlfriend, but it didn't put me off trying on the first night
So did my girlfriend, but it didn't put me off trying on the first night
I didn't have any such problems. Oh by the way she says hey!
That was awesome. Happy Friday to me. Thanks guys
I didn't have any such problems. Oh by the way she says hey!
Ah, so you must be the guy she calls Mr Inchy...
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