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Self-quarantine plans

The measures taken are the sternest in Norway has seen in peacetime:
  • Our borders are now effectively closed. Norwegian nationals and permanent residents can enter, but will have to go into quarantine immediately. Other travelers will be returned immediately, or quarantined.
  • All schools, universities and kindergartens are closed.
  • All cultural and sporting events are canceled.
  • All bars and clubs are closed, restaurants that serve food which are able to maintain 1m between patrons can stay open, but with restrictions.
  • All gyms and sporting arenas are closed.
  • All hair salons, beauticians, spas, piercing studios and tattoo parlors are closed.
  • All swimming pools are closed.
  • All physiotherapists, chiropractors, opticians and other non-essential health related businesses are closed.
  • Use of public transport is discouraged.
  • Working from home is encouraged for those who can do so. People are strongly advised against going out unless absolutely necessary.
  • People who have been in contact with confirmed Covid-19 cases are quarantined for 14 days. Breaking the quarantine is punishable by fines or jail sentences up to 6 months.
  • Travel that isn't absolutely necessary, both foreign and domestic, is strongly discouraged. It's illegal to be staying in second homes in other counties than the one in which you currently reside.
There are other restrictions, but these are the most important ones. On the plus side the government has announced an aid package both for employees and businesses, to offset the economic problems that will inevitably ensue. Businesses are encouraged not to lay employees off, but suspend them instead.
  • Suspended employees will receive a minimum of 20 days full pay from the day of their suspension, with the government covering day 3 through 20.
  • After this, suspended employees will receive benefits of minimum 80% of their salary (up to a certain level)
  • The government will cover sick pay from day 3 of the illness.
  • Freelancers and the self-employed will be guaranteed compensation amounting to 80% of their average income over the last three years.
  • Businesses will be granted extension on taxes, and VAT will be reduced, and businesses that have been directly affected by the pandemic, such as the travel business and airlines, will receive special government aid as well.
  • Inmates who are near the end of their jail terms and who are deemed not to represent a threat to society at large will be released to decrease infection risk among prison populations.
These are some of the immediate measures, further ones will come, I'm sure. For now, the situation is serious, but not as dramatic as one might expect. People are calm and cooperative, helping each other out when possible and getting on with their lives as best they can. By standing together, we hope to minimize the effects of this pandemic.

Good luck and good health to you and yours also in this difficult time.
I’m not stressed about it. I’m actually looking at the positives. This is a great chance for everyone to evaluate what really matters. It’s kinda nice to halt the consumption and “busy” for a while. Cool to see those satellite photos from Italy and China where the air pollution cleared up!

My family is taking it very seriously, basically observing the above recommendations. But we do take a daily walk, which would be a bummer if that was no longer available.

The rub here in the states is that there is very little federal guidance, it’s a state level decision. Some states are more aggressive; Washington and Ohio just closed all bars and restaurants. My state hasn’t, and school closures are a local decision- NYC just announced 8 week closure, but my area is only 4 week.

good luck to you, and thanks for sharing that info
 
I’m not stressed about it. I’m actually looking at the positives. This is a great chance for everyone to evaluate what really matters. It’s kinda nice to halt the consumption and “busy” for a while. Cool to see those satellite photos from Italy and China where the air pollution cleared up!

My family is taking it very seriously, basically observing the above recommendations. But we do take a daily walk, which would be a bummer if that was no longer available.

The rub here in the states is that there is very little federal guidance, it’s a state level decision. Some states are more aggressive; Washington and Ohio just closed all bars and restaurants. My state hasn’t, and school closures are a local decision- NYC just announced 8 week closure, but my area is only 4 week.

good luck to you, and thanks for sharing that info
I’m not too stressed about it either. And I agree that there may ultimately be silver linings to this, but they won’t be apparent for some time to come. Whenever people have to stand together to meet adversity, society ultimately benefits, but it takes time, and the price may be high.

We’ve been holed up at home since Wednesday, not going out unless we absolutely have to, but we’re OK. We’re working from home, and keeping our fingers crossed that our family business will still be there when all this is over.

Be safe.
 
Kudos to Norwegian government. While there are a couple of aspects that I disagree with, the plan in general is a sound one IMO.

Good luck
There will always been points of contention, I guess, but in times like these, standing and acting together as a community is more important than squabbling over details. Together we stand, divided we fall.

Good luck to us all.
 
I'm a public defender in criminal court and they don't seem to be cancelling court or even holding fewer court dates (although I wasn't at work today for non-virus-related issues). It's really a Petri dish down there and everyone seems to be acting like it's not happening.

Courts here are suspended, with all criminal, family, and civil matters adjourned until further notice...I'm guessing it could be up to 2 weeks. I'm a process server.
 
Courts here are suspended, with all criminal, family, and civil matters adjourned until further notice...I'm guessing it could be up to 2 weeks. I'm a process server.

Court here is suspended at least until April now, except for various constitutionally mandated hearings that I need to be around for. There are a lot fewer people around the courthouse in general, but the office is still full.
 
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New York has just closed the bars (as of tonight). It will be a gig free time for a while.
It would be nice to see some of that juicy federal money going to subsidize cities on lock-down in organizing and minimally funding TV and Internet concerts for local artists. Not only would it help keep musicians' belly buttons from touching their spines, it would give bored quarantined people something to watch at night besides commercial television. Eight weeks of enforced mainstream television and the coronavirus will seem like sweet release - if we can still think at all after that - and the risk for the musicians (assuming they have a place to record or livestream without going to/bringing in outside people, and have transportation) is probably pretty small if they can do their own sound and Internet.
 
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It would be nice to see some of that juicy federal money going to subsidize cities on lock-down in organizing and minimally funding TV and Internet concerts for local artists. Not only would it help keep musicians' belly buttons from touching their spines, it would give bored quarantined people something to watch at night besides commercial television. Eight weeks of enforced mainstream television and the coronavirus will seem like sweet release - if we can still think at all after that - and the risk for the musicians (assuming they have a place to record or livestream without going to/bringing in outside people, and have transportation) is probably pretty small if they can do their own sound and Internet.

or food
 
Well my wife does art fests, has for almost 20 years. She is, as of 3/1 out of business, as are the many many others in that line of income. She made the decision on her own but it is now being made by organizers, promotors, cities etc. I am retired and DAV, we should be able toweather this. I have a couple of eBikes that will let us get out and stay active and of course music.

50 years ago the shared conviction of being there for our buddies ( not dominos) brought far more of us home (admittedly banged up a bit) than not. Trying to be there for others will pull us through this. It will now, as it did back then, seperate the "wheat from the chaff". Rock On!!
 
Either a bus stop, or how the hookers are dealing with social distancing. I hear prices are slashed to the bone...
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I live in Oakland county, Michigan. Had to drive yesterday and today during what was normally fairly heavy traffic times. I noticed a significant lack of cars on the roads. It's not a ghost town by any means but you couldn't help but notice it, no doubt due to people working from home and all the closures in effect.

Glad to hear the stores are imposing limits on quantities that one can buy. My next door neighbor went to Kroger today and said they've got TP! I was there last Friday and there was none to be had. Didn't need it anyway. (I still do not understand what the mad rush for TP was all about).

We're rehearsing for church tomorrow but due to the crowd limits we're going to record it on video so people can go our churches website to hear the music along with the pastors message on Sunday. Like many others we're also doing what we can to keep as many safe as possible. I don't think all who were slated to play will be there due to their own concerns. But nobody is holding anything against them for their decision. Why would we? We've played with minimal people before and if we have to do it again so be it.
 
Hearing the government's response to the coronavirus makes me think there is a good chance self-quarantine might be happening, so I've been thinking what I would do for two weeks at home.

Considering I still have lots of vacation, I'm thinking I would work from home for a week and take the other week as vacation to have a massive uninterrupted practice session, the kind I had when i first started and was eager to learn faster. I still have a couple of Janek Gwizdala's books I haven't touched and I'm still chipping away at some of Steve Bailey's So Low, Solo album transcription.

Anyone else have plans in case the figurative &#!% hits the fan?


I'm a writer, so self quarantine isn't really that much of a stretch, since I'm already home. But in addition to my writing, it's a perfect time to obviously, play my bass, I have a list of "Honey-do's" for my husband, though I may have to travel to NM to take care of elderly relatives.
 
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As for hoarding, other than basic foodstuffs, there's no point. And (if you'll excuse me for having already posted this on another thread), to me, as a bass player, this self isolation / quarantine thing is all about keeping yourself amused. And for that, we have Amazon. Place an order for, say, 1/ a Helix, 2/ a Helix LT, 3/ a GT-1000; play with them for 28 days then send them back. Repeat ad infinitum or until you run out of gear to play with. But as for running out of "bog roll" (the hoarder's favourite commodity, it seems) ~ nah ~ you can always use a squirrel ~ although that's probably a joke best left for another thread ...

... however, on a more serious note, it would seem that my days as an active member of a band (playing bass) are over, and probably for a good few months. Simply put, I have been TOLD that attending a rehearsal, always held in our own personal rehearsal room, is madness due to the confined space and close proximity of the band members. Apparently, it's a very effective focal point for catching a virus. As such, it's pretty much game over in that respect ... ah, well, no excuse for not practising at home, I guess.