I have mine on order and I like the black! Don't like the silver at all, sorry. In fact, the black color got my attention before the rest of it did!
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Shuttle 9.0?
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I prefer the black, but the thing that drives me nuts the most about my Shuttle 6 is the brightness of the LEDs. I understand they were chosen so they would be easy to read in daylight, which is nice for gigs in the bright sun, but on my typical gig in a darkened club they burn my eyes from across the room.
I had covered them with a black whiteboard (i.e. erasable/water soluable) marker, but it seems to have rubbed off. Time for another treatment, I guess.
I like the idea of the Shuttle 9, but what I'd really like would be to be able to drive two 4-Ohm cabs (I'm using a Berg AE410 and wouldn't mind adding an AE210 or another AE410 just for kicks). I know the Shuttle 12 does that, but the sheer number of knobs on that beast turns me off. I know that's anathema to most here (and probably blasphemy to KJung), but when I get to fiddling with dozens of knobs trying to tweak my tone, I stop playing and focus on tweaking, and it's just frustrating. One of my favorite things about my Shuttle 6 is just being to plug in and have great tone without having to mess with much.
Even though I have a Read Purity and a Berg IP310, the Shuttle 6/AE410 is my go-to gig rig. ALWAYS great tone, no matter what the room, and it sounds great with all my basses. No fiddling necessary.
I don't care one way or another about the color....unless it was pink!
My biggest considerations are tone and power. I just want a big smile when I fire it up!
I like both. I prefer the black. Understatedly elegant...
And no, I don't believe the black would present any serious difficulty in seeing the controls on a dark stage. When I'm on a dark stage, I have my basic amp settings dialed in before it ever gets dark. Then I operate mostly by touch and sound anyway...
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Just add better markers on the knobs!!!
Yeah, that's my only complaint, too.
...but the thing that drives me nuts the most about my Shuttle 6 is the brightness of the LEDs. I understand they were chosen so they would be easy to read in daylight, which is nice for gigs in the bright sun, but on my typical gig in a darkened club they burn my eyes from across the room.
I love the LED's. Keep 'em and keep 'em blue, too.
Just ordered mine today!
Greatly prefer the black
but in the end I just want it to sound good and do all I require well.
Greatly prefer the black
but in the end I just want it to sound good and do all I require well.
FWIW I couldn't possibly agree with you more. That's the main thing that prevented me from even looking at the Max12.0 for quite some time. And then I demoed a unit and very quickly discovered that EQing is deceptively simple. Aside from being able to drive two low-resistance cabs (mine are 5.33 ohms), I love the ability of blending the pre-amp channels. Now I can get happy sounds out of my Sadowsky and MTD, just as I do the Roscoes and Lull.
I'm totally of the same mind. If I'm tweaking knobs on the amp I'm not happy, and usually am in the market for something different not long afterward. If you have the chance, I'd definitely recommend spending a bit of time with the Max12 to see if your results are anywhere close to the pleasant surprise I experienced.
I've been a very satisfied 6.0 user for as long as they've been on the market, and I will tell you that the 9.0 has the same out of the box great tone without a lot of twiddling. It IS beefier when set flat, and is considerably louder than the 6.0. I tried to capture the sheer volume of it, but I couldn't get it to Protools without major clipping in the recorded sound. But as I was cranking it up, books and cds were falling off my shelves, and my stomach felt like it was going to spontaneously empty! This is one loud puppy.
Thanks for the info, Jerry. I do get tempted by lots of knobs . . . so many possibilities . . . and then like a moth to a flame, I'm in tweaking-land turning knobs. That's OK at home, but at a gig I just like to plug-n-play.
I'll keep it in mind though. Considering I'm getting all the stage volume I could ever need out of the Shuttle 6/AE410, I don't really need another cab. I just like the idea of having a devastating rig of two AE410s. It's not really practical for my situation, and I'd rather spend the money on a Rob Allen or something, but it sure would look cool!
Also, as I own a QSC PLX1804 already, I'd probably start out by just using the Shuttle 6.0 as a pre once I got the second cab.
Another vote for black. I do think the silver looks better on the 6.0 series than the 12.0 series though.
Nice job on the video Ed! I really wanted one of these when I first saw them, but after watching your vid I REALLY want one of these to go with my Uber 410.
I love my GBE 1200, but from what I heard on the video, you don't lose a whole lot in tone or volume from the 1200 with the 900, and the weight loss would probably be well worth the trade.
Black looks sharp, but I don't think it's better than the silver - just a different good. IMO the silver seems to have been a hallmark for the last few generations of amps (and it's dead sexy I might add, esp. the brushed face of the 750 and 1200), so it's certainly a big switch to go with the black.
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I prefer the black, but the thing that drives me nuts the most about my Shuttle 6 is the brightness of the LEDs. I understand they were chosen so they would be easy to read in daylight, which is nice for gigs in the bright sun, but on my typical gig in a darkened club they burn my eyes from across the room.
I had covered them with a black whiteboard (i.e. erasable/water soluable) marker, but it seems to have rubbed off. Time for another treatment, I guess.
I like the idea of the Shuttle 9, but what I'd really like would be to be able to drive two 4-Ohm cabs (I'm using a Berg AE410 and wouldn't mind adding an AE210 or another AE410 just for kicks). I know the Shuttle 12 does that, but the sheer number of knobs on that beast turns me off. I know that's anathema to most here (and probably blasphemy to KJung), but when I get to fiddling with dozens of knobs trying to tweak my tone, I stop playing and focus on tweaking, and it's just frustrating. One of my favorite things about my Shuttle 6 is just being to plug in and have great tone without having to mess with much.
Even though I have a Read Purity and a Berg IP310, the Shuttle 6/AE410 is my go-to gig rig. ALWAYS great tone, no matter what the room, and it sounds great with all my basses. No fiddling necessary.
thanks sincerely for the thoughtful response. This is quite helpful. We talk about the simplicity of our interface all the time so, your feedback is invaluable.
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yeah.....we apologize. We've received that feedback enough that we should have taken care of it. We did enlarge our black dot a bit but evidently, not enough.
We'll get on it......we promise.
Black looks cool. Wouldn't 'prefer' it to the silver, but they're both great. +1 on the knobs.
And +1 on being thrown off by the knobiness of the MAX. Silly that factors like that can be off-putting (even if they ought not). Loved the simplicity of my 3.0, and appreciate you keeping the simpler layout on the 9.
And +1 on being thrown off by the knobiness of the MAX. Silly that factors like that can be off-putting (even if they ought not). Loved the simplicity of my 3.0, and appreciate you keeping the simpler layout on the 9.
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Err......OK, someone chime in on this please.
For some reason I have the idea of jumping back to a heavy weight head ala' the GBE1200 (then the jerks at Genz come out with the 9.0....
Killin' me.....) and that above statement intrigues me. Has anyone spent time with the 1200 and the 9.0 (or the 6.0/S'Max 12) enough to comment.
Anyway, from a video, how do you come to that conclusion???
I flat out LOVE my 6.0. But I'm not sure I could really say that from a video it would lose/gain over another amp.
BTW, the one BIG feature on the 6.0 for me is, like others have stated, the simple controls.
Lots of knobs and stuff make me go gaga as well. But I have found, at least for me, that I always got the best tone out of amps which limited me with the knob fiddling. They make me play and work to get the tone in my head out to my ears.
Here is a CRAZY idea Roger and Andy.......How about the simplicity of the 6.0/9.0 dropped onto the front end of the 1200?
6 knobs, 4 buttons, 1 tube and 1200 watts of lead-sled power.
Backwards as hell from where you guys are going I know. Just sayin'.....that's all.
Lemme know when you guys do it. I'll be happy to test run one for ya!
And make it silver!
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The silver is quite nice, but I think I slightly prefer the black. And I know that you love them when playing outdoors in strong daylight, but for most of my gigging scenarios, some LEDs that were not quite as bright would be a godsend.
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