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Someone cracked the Animato

I can't wait to see what it looks like at the end. The tilt idea sounds really cool and the change of cap is a good idea for that extra bass when all you really need from that section of the circuit is that attack. Also I'm glad you're already getting to tweaking it to your liking.

I'm enjoying the clone on the breadboard alot. Working on a PCB soon for a 1590B enclosure, no mods but I'll socket a few key components to make sure I can get it accurate. Sourcing transistors are being a pain but I'll get there.
 
I just bought an animato, i guess you guys might be putting the value of it down here! ;)

I don't think that it'll change an original's value a bit. just like the original tonebenders and fuzz faces didn't drop in price after all of the boutique clones of them came out.
 
i just finished boxing mine up:

AnimatoClone-01.jpg


AnimatoClone-02.jpg
 
Probably looking at $200 AUD, but I'm not in the situation at the moment to make small quantities in a quality that I deem good. I haven't even made a working on yet (my own fault, read pinouts on transistors carefully)
 
That's a great price! You and johnk are my heroes right now! I play in a band that is heavily influenced by muse and i am always on that ever eternal quest to get a pedal to match the tone. I've gotten sort of comparable with my b3k (with an eq) and an OFD but NEVERRR quite nail it
 
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Thanks. I see quite a few people want them so it's reassuring I guess. I can vouch for the original in a band setting. It sounds good. Damn good. That's with both a passive Fender Precision and an active Pedulla (fan boy). I think it can even sound good on its own. I'll try and do some reviews of the original and the clone when it's working just to give some opinion and a bit of an idea how it all works.

I'll get my poorly painted version running hopefully by Friday if all goes well. I'm not adding a clean blend just yet, doubt it will fit nicely in that enclosure. I'm fussy.

I've organised to get waterslide decals for the outside for a limited run. Also working on properly machined PCB's because I don't have the time/patience to stand outside and hand drill 10 or more PCB's of this size. Snapping those drillbits gets expensive fast. Maybe I can use all this and sell the original eventually to invest in some nicer tools.* :p

*or a Sandberg California TT 5er
 
Thanks. I see quite a few people want them so it's reassuring I guess. I can vouch for the original in a band setting. It sounds good. Damn good. That's with both a passive Fender Precision and an active Pedulla (fan boy). I think it can even sound good on its own. I'll try and do some reviews of the original and the clone when it's working just to give some opinion and a bit of an idea how it all works.

I'll get my poorly painted version running hopefully by Friday if all goes well. I'm not adding a clean blend just yet, doubt it will fit nicely in that enclosure. I'm fussy.

I've organised to get waterslide decals for the outside for a limited run. Also working on properly machined PCB's because I don't have the time/patience to stand outside and hand drill 10 or more PCB's of this size. Snapping those drillbits gets expensive fast. Maybe I can use all this and sell the original eventually to invest in some nicer tools.* :p

*or a Sandberg California TT 5er
There YA go! That's awesome. If you do this well, you are gonna be rolling in sandbergs! I love the clean look of your box and I bet the limited version will look awesome
 
Thank you. I want to keep it clean looking to fit with what I purchased and also I wish to build with parts that are accessible/easy to obtain. I have a print company printing out some decals for me if this all goes ahead and I'll include a few other goodies to go with it such as appropriate boxing, manual, schematic since I think it'll compliment the experience I had when I bought my Animato. A few issues I'm facing as far as the design is concerned:

- LED placement. It'll have to go to the bottom left next to the switch. That'll allow for production PCB's to be placed in, most likely with a double sided foam against the case. I like to have the components facing up on my boards and displayed. Main reason for getting proper PCB's printed over home etched is for quality and time saving. I want it to be nice. For the cost vs scale, it's also fairly comparable. I might even be able to get my hands onto a family member's laser etching machine which would make my life immensely better.

- Enclosures. I don't have the right gear here to paint them to an appropriate quality as I tested during the week which seemed to just get too dirty for my liking. This will be the bit that sets me back the most financially. The drilling spots I've selected are good for the time being. At least proves it can all fit in a tidy manner. A version with a clean blend will go in a bigger enclosure but I'd rather get accurate clones out over going nuts with it (imagine clean/big muff/animato all stuffed into one? mmmmm)

- Sourcing potentiometers and knobs. The knobs I featured are no longer available but there is something similar in stock elsewhere. Also, my favoured electronics supplier does not stock the dual gang pots with smooth shafts for knobs. Easy thing to get around, just a bit more of a nuisance.

- Working on a design where as many components as possible are placed on the board flat. It's quite difficult to make a board layout compact, functional and look aesthetically pleasing. It's the case of have three options, pick two. I think I've pretty much achieved this one though. I did once Link Removed

- Finding the right transistors to pair with it that produce an honest representation of the pedal. I believe my breadboarded demo does a great job with the attack but just edges slightly away from the decay side. I have a few other silicon types coming in so if I can find a set there that work, it'll be nice. If a Darlington transistor drops in the best, so be it (that'll be nicer too, three less pins to worry about). If I absolutely must go the germanium route, I'll have to take some time and money to decide how to go about them. They are virtually impossible to get locally and with their *ahem* lack of reliability, it puts them comfortably 10-20 times more expensive than silicon variants (a few cents compared to ~$5-10). That's why I'm really happy john_k and others have assisted with building and assessing it. It makes this task less risky, especially for a uni student who isn't doing this for profit (just yet, I'd rather focus on my own designs).

- Time and money. While I technically have my last class for the year tomorrow, I have exams until mid/late next month. I do not wish to ask people for deposits, I want the pedals to be there ready to go, then put up for sale as to not disappoint and I am working as fast as I can to ensure that it's possible to get some clones out. Amazingly, I've had a few people donate money to the project which has been fantastic. It allowed me to get the supplies required to breadboard it and have a go at buying the parts to build it so a huge thank you to all of them. :D

I'll put all the design stuff up too so people at home can have a go. I *hope* to have started building these come late November, early December. I'm also working on other projects in the meantime for myself such as looking into making a hybrid digital/analog reverb but that'll take a lot of study time learning ways to manipulate that stuff.

For now, if you want an Animato sound, find an old Dallas Rangemaster and shove a Big Muff Pi after it. Close enough. :D
 
Thank you. I want to keep it clean looking to fit with what I purchased and also I wish to build with parts that are accessible/easy to obtain. I have a print company printing out some decals for me if this all goes ahead and I'll include a few other goodies to go with it such as appropriate boxing, manual, schematic since I think it'll compliment the experience I had when I bought my Animato. A few issues I'm facing as far as the design is concerned:

- LED placement. It'll have to go to the bottom left next to the switch. That'll allow for production PCB's to be placed in, most likely with a double sided foam against the case. I like to have the components facing up on my boards and displayed. Main reason for getting proper PCB's printed over home etched is for quality and time saving. I want it to be nice. For the cost vs scale, it's also fairly comparable. I might even be able to get my hands onto a family member's laser etching machine which would make my life immensely better.

- Enclosures. I don't have the right gear here to paint them to an appropriate quality as I tested during the week which seemed to just get too dirty for my liking. This will be the bit that sets me back the most financially. The drilling spots I've selected are good for the time being. At least proves it can all fit in a tidy manner. A version with a clean blend will go in a bigger enclosure but I'd rather get accurate clones out over going nuts with it (imagine clean/big muff/animato all stuffed into one? mmmmm)

- Sourcing potentiometers and knobs. The knobs I featured are no longer available but there is something similar in stock elsewhere. Also, my favoured electronics supplier does not stock the dual gang pots with smooth shafts for knobs. Easy thing to get around, just a bit more of a nuisance.

- Working on a design where as many components as possible are placed on the board flat. It's quite difficult to make a board layout compact, functional and look aesthetically pleasing. It's the case of have three options, pick two. I think I've pretty much achieved this one though. I did once Link Removed

- Finding the right transistors to pair with it that produce an honest representation of the pedal. I believe my breadboarded demo does a great job with the attack but just edges slightly away from the decay side. I have a few other silicon types coming in so if I can find a set there that work, it'll be nice. If a Darlington transistor drops in the best, so be it (that'll be nicer too, three less pins to worry about). If I absolutely must go the germanium route, I'll have to take some time and money to decide how to go about them. They are virtually impossible to get locally and with their *ahem* lack of reliability, it puts them comfortably 10-20 times more expensive than silicon variants (a few cents compared to ~$5-10). That's why I'm really happy john_k and others have assisted with building and assessing it. It makes this task less risky, especially for a uni student who isn't doing this for profit (just yet, I'd rather focus on my own designs).

- Time and money. While I technically have my last class for the year tomorrow, I have exams until mid/late next month. I do not wish to ask people for deposits, I want the pedals to be there ready to go, then put up for sale as to not disappoint and I am working as fast as I can to ensure that it's possible to get some clones out. Amazingly, I've had a few people donate money to the project which has been fantastic. It allowed me to get the supplies required to breadboard it and have a go at buying the parts to build it so a huge thank you to all of them. :D

I'll put all the design stuff up too so people at home can have a go. I *hope* to have started building these come late November, early December. I'm also working on other projects in the meantime for myself such as looking into making a hybrid digital/analog reverb but that'll take a lot of study time learning ways to manipulate that stuff.

For now, if you want an Animato sound, find an old Dallas Rangemaster and shove a Big Muff Pi after it. Close enough. :D
Thank you so much and to john k as well for doing this! I am excited to see and hear these clones!!!
 
I can report back that I've still had no luck making a clone PCB. This is the second PCB I've made and it doesn't work, even with sockets and what not. I'm really perplexed by this. I thought I'd be rusty after a pretty long hiatus but not this bad. Even a Phase 90 build I attempted failed as well so I'm starting to think that I need to nail my soldering technique since everything else looks okay. I think I'll take one last shot at it, make the layout as large as possible for the enclosure and hope that works, at least now I don't have classes to attend.

And to think, I breadboarded it with ease. Hmm.
 
So I put the clone in a box. Turns out the clone has far more gain so I've done my best to make both equal. Tone knobs are virtually the same between them and I figured out after this that the real one has a linear volume instead of an audio taper (d'oh!). I also have one cap to correct on my schematic to put it the right way.

Anyway, here's a soundclip where I play both and switch between them frequently. Usually it was the original first but honestly, it's at a point where I'd say you'll happily get a very similar tone from the clone without resorting to mojo parts.

 
So I put the clone in a box. Turns out the clone has far more gain so I've done my best to make both equal. Tone knobs are virtually the same between them and I figured out after this that the real one has a linear volume instead of an audio taper (d'oh!). I also have one cap to correct on my schematic to put it the right way.

Anyway, here's a soundclip where I play both and switch between them frequently. Usually it was the original first but honestly, it's at a point where I'd say you'll happily get a very similar tone from the clone without resorting to mojo parts.


That sounds amazinggggg