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[SumOne]

Interesting. I also predominantly use Filters and Octave effects also. However, my Proton, Octabvre, and MXRM82 have all lost to the C4 + a DMC micro, because the filter and octave effects are great on the C4 + there's a ton of versatility by stomping through patches on a micro, rather than bending down to tweak pedal settings.

Yeah, I seem to be in the minority and can certainly see that the C4 and a DMC micro would really open things up. But if I'd bought the DMC in addition I assume it would still mean quite a lot of time with a Laptop programming different potential combinations of having two (or more) separate pedals with their on-hand hardware control e.g. If I wanted my Octamizer to be set to let through a raised treble tone clean signal and a low volume 'growl' octave feeding into into the M82 with a low decay setting and medium Q and just on the edge of sensitivity for it to react how I want when I switch to just the bridge pickup....that's all possible with 2x separate pedals and a few seconds of tweaking to get to a sweet spot. I'm sure I could get something very close on the C4 after hours of Laptop tweaking and save it as a preset, but what when I decide I want to move a few of the parameters that aren't mapped to a C4 hardware control? I'd have to either have phone/Laptop hooked up or to have planned beforehand and programmed a separate preset number (which I would have to remember) and to click through to it, or have some additional midi control. I'm sure that works for a lot of people and it's just a bit of a different mindset but it's not the way I really like to work.

I would say that the C4 tracks well, low latency, loads of good sounds from it. My only issue is how to access and adjust those sounds on-the-go for a hands-on interactive experience.

 

[Annette]

Hmm I've no idea how to switch the tip and ring ‍

At least you know how to add a video on talkbass. ♀
I just tried my melaudio into the soleman and I get all the values from 0-127. In fact, there is still a 1/4" play or so on the toe of the pedal after reaching 127. Other than that it's smooth.
I do remember that I found that using the soleman as a midi translator works better for me than plugging directly into a pedal or the neuro hub for some reason. The taper wasn't as smooth.

Here's the text from that melaudio reviewer: "When I first plugged it in I had an issue with the full sweep happening in the lower 20% of the pedal. But this was easily resolved by swapping the Tip & Ring connection on one end of a TRS cable. It now works perfectly, and has a nice sweep/taper/resistance. The pedal is advertised as potentially only reaching 95% of the sweep, but I've found that it seems to go the whole way perfectly without any adjustments."

 

[ReeV0]

At least you know how to add a video on talkbass. ♀
I just tried my melaudio into the soleman and I get all the values from 0-127. In fact, there is still a 1/4" play or so on the toe of the pedal after reaching 127. Other than that it's smooth.
I do remember that I found that using the soleman as a midi translator works better for me than plugging directly into a pedal or the neuro hub for some reason. The taper wasn't as smooth.

Here's the text from that melaudio reviewer: "When I first plugged it in I had an issue with the full sweep happening in the lower 20% of the pedal. But this was easily resolved by swapping the Tip & Ring connection on one end of a TRS cable. It now works perfectly, and has a nice sweep/taper/resistance. The pedal is advertised as potentially only reaching 95% of the sweep, but I've found that it seems to go the whole way perfectly without any adjustments."

Cheers for the help, I don't think I can plug an expression pedal into the C4 directly hence why I'm going through the DMC.micro. I've found these but shipping to the UK is too expensive...

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[Annette]

Cheers for the help, I don't think I can plug an expression pedal into the C4 directly hence why I'm going through the DMC.micro. I've found these but shipping to the UK is too expensive...

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If you have a soldering iron at home and a trs plug, it's not too difficult to diy

 

[Annette]

Cheers for the help, I don't think I can plug an expression pedal into the C4 directly hence why I'm going through the DMC.micro. I've found these but shipping to the UK is too expensive...

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Oh but also, you can absolutely plug directly into the C4. I believe the pedal ship with a 1/8" TRS to 1/4" TRS cable to connect to the neuro app on your phone. I just use the cable to connect my expression pedal to the soleman, which has the same ext. input as the c4. Below is the relevant section of the c4 manual:

 

[jkazam]

At least you know how to add a video on talkbass. ♀
I just tried my melaudio into the soleman and I get all the values from 0-127. In fact, there is still a 1/4" play or so on the toe of the pedal after reaching 127. Other than that it's smooth.
I do remember that I found that using the soleman as a midi translator works better for me than plugging directly into a pedal or the neuro hub for some reason. The taper wasn't as smooth.

Here's the text from that melaudio reviewer: "When I first plugged it in I had an issue with the full sweep happening in the lower 20% of the pedal. But this was easily resolved by swapping the Tip & Ring connection on one end of a TRS cable. It now works perfectly, and has a nice sweep/taper/resistance. The pedal is advertised as potentially only reaching 95% of the sweep, but I've found that it seems to go the whole way perfectly without any adjustments."

Same. Meloaudio works through the DMC micro, but did not seem to work reliably directly into the C4 even with reversing the polarity.

 

[Real Soon]

Ah, expression! I recently got my Mission Engineering exp pedal set up via the DMC-8, and currently have it sweeping on the Meris Mercury7, Alexander Quadrant, and Alexander Wavelength. That's already a wild ride waiting to happen.

Next up is setting up a few C4 patches to take exp control from the DMC-8, and then I'll have a pretty serious chain of sweepscapes on tap and on demand. This ought to be fun!

 

[ReeV0]

Oh but also, you can absolutely plug directly into the C4. I believe the pedal ship with a 1/8" TRS to 1/4" TRS cable to connect to the neuro app on your phone. I just use the cable to connect my expression pedal to the soleman, which has the same ext. input as the c4. Below is the relevant section of the c4 manual:
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Oh didn't realise that, does it plug straight into Input 2?

Is there a way of using a Y-cable or splitter cable to have the expression pedal plugged into the Stomp and the C4 at the same time?

 

[Annette]

Oh didn't realise that, does it plug straight into Input 2?

Is there a way of using a Y-cable or splitter cable to have the expression pedal plugged into the Stomp and the C4 at the same time?

No, it goes into the control input on the backside. See screenshot..
I'm not sure there is a splitter cable for those purposes... maybe anyone else knows?

 

[voodoobassist]

Oh didn't realise that, does it plug straight into Input 2?

Is there a way of using a Y-cable or splitter cable to have the expression pedal plugged into the Stomp and the C4 at the same time?

The 1/4” to 1/8” plugs into input two on the side of the c4. As far as splitting an expression pedal to control the c4 and an Hx stomp, I haven’t been able to make that work. And I bought the dual output SA exp pedal in an attempt to do that very thing. So far as I can tell, the only way to control both with one exp pedal is to route both through the SA hub or something similar. It’s a bit frustrating.

 

[Gibs210]

The 1/4” to 1/8” plugs into input two on the side of the c4. As far as splitting an expression pedal to control the c4 and an Hx stomp, I haven’t been able to make that work. And I bought the dual output SA exp pedal in an attempt to do that very thing. So far as I can tell, the only way to control both with one exp pedal is to route both through the SA hub or something similar. It’s a bit frustrating.

The problem is that line six doesn’t use traditional expression wiring. They use TS, with a resistor on the pot. Whereas the standard is trs with the signal on the top and power on the ring. (Where the 1/8” control port on our pedals is inverted). So the dual expression pedal is not going to work with line6 products.

 

[SumOne]

I had the C4 boxed up and refund return slip agreed with the shop all ready to go to the post office when it's partial replacement (Fwonkbeta envelope filter) arrived....after a day of testing that I unboxed the C4 again to compare and have had a change of heart! The Fwonkbeta is being returned and the C4 is staying, the C4 can get close to that or the M82, and I really Like Quatschmacher's Upright Bass preset. I can't quite get the C4 to do an Octaver as good as my Octamizer so that will be staying for the time being.

I'll just have to get into a different mindset of making adjustments via Laptop/Phone and saving a lot of presets. At a minimum, a DMC micro (or equivalent) is on my shopping list, as is somethign like the EHX CTRL.

........this does mean that my envelope filter and Octaver 'replacement' has only actually replaced my envelope filter on my pedalboard, and will cost and take up the space of two or three envelope filters by the time I've bought additional hardware controls. Probably worth it though.

 

[rsmith601]

I had the C4 boxed up and refund return slip agreed with the shop all ready to go to the post office when it's partial replacement (Fwonkbeta envelope filter) arrived....after a day of testing that I unboxed the C4 again to compare and have had a change of heart! The Fwonkbeta is being returned and the C4 is staying, the C4 can get close to that or the M82, and I really Like Quatschmacher's Upright Bass preset. I can't quite get the C4 to do an Octaver as good as my Octamizer so that will be staying for the time being.

I'll just have to get into a different mindset of making adjustments via Laptop/Phone and saving a lot of presets. At a minimum, a DMC micro (or equivalent) is on my shopping list, as is somethign like the EHX CTRL.

........this does mean that my envelope filter and Octaver 'replacement' has only actually replaced my envelope filter on my pedalboard, and will cost and take up the space of two or three envelope filters by the time I've bought additional hardware controls. Probably worth it though.

Phew, that was a close call. I was worried! The C4 gets another chance.

 

[GMC]

Haha, might be able to finally afford one.

I tried the patch using my Stingray with the bridge mutes engaged and it works well too, it gets the high notes to die out quicker as they tend to on upright. Probably worth experimenting with foam at the bridge on other basses too, especially if using roundwounds.

I've been trying your fantastic patch on various basses and I've listed to what you said about your P bass with flats...and I think I've nailed it on my 6 string fretted. It's got a John East U-retro 3 band EQ and when I dial down the treble 3/4 and add 1/4 mid boost and then sweep the filter until I find that woody sound...I'm pretty much there.
Yet another reason to get and EQ2...I could dial in this sound as a patch for each of my basses. I think the mojo here is in the treble drop and mids boost. It's a pretty convincing Double Bass tone. It's certainly the best double bass emulator I've heard - period. You sir are a genius!

 

[GMC]

I had the C4 boxed up and refund return slip agreed with the shop all ready to go to the post office when it's partial replacement (Fwonkbeta envelope filter) arrived....after a day of testing that I unboxed the C4 again to compare and have had a change of heart! The Fwonkbeta is being returned and the C4 is staying, the C4 can get close to that or the M82, and I really Like Quatschmacher's Upright Bass preset. I can't quite get the C4 to do an Octaver as good as my Octamizer so that will be staying for the time being.

I'll just have to get into a different mindset of making adjustments via Laptop/Phone and saving a lot of presets. At a minimum, a DMC micro (or equivalent) is on my shopping list, as is somethign like the EHX CTRL.

........this does mean that my envelope filter and Octaver 'replacement' has only actually replaced my envelope filter on my pedalboard, and will cost and take up the space of two or three envelope filters by the time I've bought additional hardware controls. Probably worth it though.

To be honest, the 6 selectable patches from the pedal top plate is a bit like choosing which bits of candy you want instantly accessible. I have a pretty close representation of an OC-2 as my first patch. Nothing else has ever come this close before the C4. The problem is that I have 110 patches stored on my C4 and I can call them up over Midi CC. However...only having 6 favs to choose is like choosing between my fav children.
I'm sure you can get the C4 to mimic the Octamizer if you play with the settings. If not...reach out to the community. There's loads of guys here who would love to help.

 

[Quatschmacher]

It's certainly the best double bass emulator I've heard - period. You sir are a genius!

Thanks. I’d love to hear some clips as I’m interested to hear how well it translates to others’ basses.

I'm sure you can get the C4 to mimic the Octamizer if you play with the settings. If not...reach out to the community. There's loads of guys here who would love to help.

If I still had an Octamizer I’d give this a go. A recording of just the wet signal played on a neck pickup be enough for me to have a crack at it, though I’m a bit busy with some other stuff at present.

 

[ReeV0]

What midi setup controls do you guys have? I'm trying to think what to set on my DMC.micro...

All I've got so far is the micro scrolling through presets, holding left to bypass the C4, then I've got UTIL set up for tap tempo on the right side. But that leaves the left side, any suggestions what I should map it to?

 

[JRMK]

I have a pretty close representation of an OC-2 as my first patch. Nothing else has ever come this close before the C4.

Uh oh ... is it one of the community patches? Would you please share it? This is exactly what I am missing from my C4 right now

 

[Max Bogosity]

I just got a fairly nice bonus, so I finally treated myself to a C4. Right out of the box, there are a couple of usable presets and it tracks way better than the EHX Bass Mono Synth.

Obviously going to be a very steep learning curve, though. So far I can’t even figure out how to save changes other than the patch name and description. Time to read.

 

[voodoobassist]

Ran the C4 tonight via my phone and the library. Worked flawlessly. I've had it work not so well in the past, getting stuck on one patch, not pulling a patch up, etc. Nice to have it functional ! We played a casino tonight with the subs right under me on the stage. Those low fat smooth settings sounded amazing!