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SPECTOR® Club - Part 27

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Clearwave said:
It probably has to do with my age (almost 40) or because I live in the deep south but 85% of those artists I would consider hard rock or Metal. That is why I feel like the current marketing looks like it is geared towards metal.

Now I might be wrong about what is metal, hard rock, pop, rock etc. but when I open a Bass Player mag and I see Leland Sklar holding a Warwick, I think "must be a good all around bass".

Doug Wimbish-Known for the band Living Colour, they are considered a metal band. Especially if you remember when they first came out. I know Doug does much more than that, but that what he is known for. Every youtube video on him is Doug playing a jimi hendrix style solo. Of course he does much more than that but I'm talking perception.

Nickelback guy- Hard rock band.

Springsteen guy- Ok...thats a rock band.

Somebody needs to bust stings bass out of the museum and give it back to him, that would help. More black and/or country artists would help too.

Kudos on the Female spector artist feature...this ain't no boys club. As a father of two little girls, I hope I'm looking for one of those pink ns2's someday.

Got ya. If I had a good easy way to record I would gladly record some clips of what ever songs you wanted to hear. Name some artists /songs you like and lets see if we can get some people to record some clips. Do check out Lima guys clips on sound cloud. Their not metal and he has multiple clips of different basses and preamps so you can compare.
 
Interesting. Hadn't really even given flats on a Spector a thought. Nearly all my basses have rounds on them now, with the exception of a set of Chrome Flats I have on a Reverend 5L. I really don't have much experience in the flats world so anything I try there would be new to me. Thought about putting some TI Jazz flats on one of my Fenders but haven't got around to it yet. I've also had lots of love in the past for LaBella Tapewounds on my Jazz basses and Stingrays, but again hadn't really even made the connection between tapes or flats and Spectors. Maybe worth a try if the roundwound path doesn't pan out. So for now it's DR Black Beauties in the lead with GHS flats and LaBella Tapes as potentials.
Any other recommendations on a good 5 string set for a finger player (no slap, no pic).

GHS also makes tape wounds. Having a set put onto my new being built Forte 5 at Woodstock, NY.
 
You're mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberry. LOL.

LOVE this movie.

And you know, I was inspired by the black knight and the bridge "none shall pass" scene for Alex Webster's bloody bass. LOL.

One of my favorite movies of all time. My favorite scene...

King Arthur: I am your king.
Peasant Woman: Well, I didn't vote for you.
King Arthur: You don't vote for kings.
Peasant Woman: Well, how'd you become king, then?
[Angelic music plays... ]
King Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king.
Dennis the Peasant: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Arthur: Be quiet!
Dennis the Peasant: You can't expect to wield supreme power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!



I've always thought that Farcical Aquatic Ceremony would be an awesome band name.
 
Here is a photo of me with it.
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Both look excellent!!...Like the wood one specially!!
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One of my favorite movies of all time. My favorite scene...

King Arthur: I am your king.
Peasant Woman: Well, I didn't vote for you.
King Arthur: You don't vote for kings.
Peasant Woman: Well, how'd you become king, then?
[Angelic music plays... ]
King Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king.
Dennis the Peasant: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Arthur: Be quiet!
Dennis the Peasant: You can't expect to wield supreme power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!



I've always thought that Farcical Aquatic Ceremony would be an awesome band name.

Love this scene!!! I need to watch it again....been too long.... :hyper:
 
Is there a way that Nickelback could somehow be stricken from Spector's history books.
When I want to know what equipment NOT to purchase, I look at a band like Nickelback's gear and go the other way.
Spectors play well (we know this). I played death/speed metal for 20 years, and I'm in a new hardcore band now. Spectors work for many music genres, because they're slick, sound great, and are very agile instruments.
They are not "metal basses". That's like saying that Ferrari only markets to race car drivers. Anyone can own one. People who play high-performance music (whether you appreciate the style or not) are great endorsers of the product.
Now, let's all pretend that Nickelback plays Fenders or Ricks...
 
Is there a way that Nickelback could somehow be stricken from Spector's history books.
When I want to know what equipment NOT to purchase, I look at a band like Nickelback's gear and go the other way.
Spectors play well (we know this). I played death/speed metal for 20 years, and I'm in a new hardcore band now. Spectors work for many music genres, because they're slick, sound great, and are very agile instruments.
They are not "metal basses". That's like saying that Ferrari only markets to race car drivers. Anyone can own one. People who play high-performance music (whether you appreciate the style or not) are great endorsers of the product.
Now, let's all pretend that Nickelback plays Fenders or Ricks...

I think quite the opposite...... when a band as huge as Nickelback uses certain gear, I would tend to believe its some of the best gear. I'm not a fan of Nickelback, but they have to be one of the most successful bands around, and have A TON OF MONEY... they could play whatever they want... so the fact that Mike chooses Spector basses means a lot to me

and umm Lemmy plays Ricks and a number of Legends play Fenders..... I wouldn't say they are bad basses or deserve to be lumped under a blanket of hate like that....

Don't hate Nickelback because they are living the dream, doing what most if not a of us would love to be doing. I'd tour with those guys in a heartbeat.
 
worshiprocker said:
I think quite the opposite...... when a band as huge as Nickelback uses certain gear, I would tend to believe its some of the best gear. I'm not a fan of Nickelback, but they have to be one of the most successful bands around, and have A TON OF MONEY... they could play whatever they want... so the fact that Mike chooses Spector basses means a lot to me

and umm Lemmy plays Ricks and a number of Legends play Fenders..... I wouldn't say they are bad basses or deserve to be lumped under a blanket of hate like that....

Don't hate Nickelback because they are living the dream, doing what most if not a of us would love to be doing. I'd tour with those guys in a heartbeat.

I don't recall saying that I hated Fenders or Ricks...it's a matter of personal taste at the end of the day. Blanket of hate? C'mon, man. Has the debate well been that dry on here lately? That's a lot of drama.
I see your point, and I hope you live your dream of touring with that train wreck of a band.
What amazes me is that I have never met anyone who likes Nickelback, but they are huge, for some reason.
I'm sure their bassist loves his Spector. The rest of us will take the bad with the good.
 
Is there a way that Nickelback could somehow be stricken from Spector's history books.
When I want to know what equipment NOT to purchase, I look at a band like Nickelback's gear and go the other way.
Spectors play well (we know this). I played death/speed metal for 20 years, and I'm in a new hardcore band now. Spectors work for many music genres, because they're slick, sound great, and are very agile instruments.
They are not "metal basses". That's like saying that Ferrari only markets to race car drivers. Anyone can own one. People who play high-performance music (whether you appreciate the style or not) are great endorsers of the product.
Now, let's all pretend that Nickelback plays Fenders or Ricks...

I mean it's sort of a funny thing... I'm listing to one of Ra Diaz's projects right now... Nina Dioz, a Mexican, all Spanish Rap/Hip-Hop group... but MAN is it good stuff...

On the other hand there's a lot of Spector artists I know and respect, and consider friends, and I don't particularly care for or listen to their music.

I can love the bassist, not the style of music so much.

I don't know Mike Kroeger. I've never met him. His tech, Shu, is a really nice guy. Really cool and know his stuff. That guy is a real, hard-core tech and he's a complete pro.

What I will say is that I don't really know a lot about Nickelback... I've heard a couple of songs. And there's a few groups, Nickelback, Hinder, and a few more, that all seem to do a very similar style of music. There's nothing wrong with it.

I will say that of the three of four Nickelback songs I have heard and can remember... or they come on the TV or radio and I think, "Oh, this is Nickelback" I listen to them closely.

And Mike Kroeger is a very good bassist. Stays in the pocket, but takes some risks, punches and accents the melody in a few unexpected places (which is a nice thing for me)... they may be a formula band, but his playing isn't.

And they've sold like 50,000,000 records. That's 50 Million. And so regardless of all the hate they get from people, they have to have a seriously big following somewhere.

Music is a subjective art form because people have different tastes and likes and it's all good.

I tend not to care what any bassist plays or doesn't play. I look at the tone. I hear a song, hear a bass lines, hear a tone and that's what is important to me. Not what strings or amps or bass the artist is using.

Sting got me started with Spector. And I'd personally love to see him play a Spector again. But Kramer messed that up pretty good. They didn't care about him. They wanted hard-rock metal guys. So they ignored the relationship and Sting moved on.

And now he's like Geddy Lee. One of Fender's top guys. And they take Good care of him. He's going no where, not back to Spector or anywhere else. And that's fine.

PJ still talks to Sting's tech Danny. And Danny says Sting has always thought highly of Stuart's basses. But he's going to stay with Fender, not that PJ has asked that I'm aware of.

I'm glad Sting played his white NS-2 in the only concert of his I've ever seen live. That single concert has without question changed my life.

But since that time... I didn't care that Sting played that bass. That wasn't the appeal of the NS-2 for me. It was standing in an arena with 50,000 other Southerners hearing that growl dominate the mix... I heard Copeland's drums and Sting's bass. That was about it.

So what any one artist plays or doesn't play doesn't matter. It's all about their tone for me. But I respect that you wouldn't want to play something that someone you don't like plays. I'm sort of that way too. Unless it's something awesome like a Spector... then I don't care. LOL.
 
GHS also makes tape wounds. Having a set put onto my new being built Forte 5 at Woodstock, NY.

Man this thread moves fast! Looked away for a half day and 3 pages went by.

On the topic of strings, I've only tried the La Bella and the Rotosound tapes and liked the La Bellas a lot, didn't care for the rotos. I'll look into the GHS tapes as well.

To the other posters on this thread on the topic of Spectors = metal. I'm completely new to to the Spector clan (in fact my newly purchased REX is in transit so I really can't officially lay claim to any real Spector knowledge). But as a first time buyer I can offer a possibly interesting perspective to the gentileman from Spector on this thread that asked why people equate the product with metal. Spector can market on it's website all it wants and that's a good thing (nice website by the way), but lacking any copies to try out in a local store many of us turn to youtube to hear what some equipment sounds like. Of course most of us don't put 100% faith in the accuracy or quality of youtube vids but it is a useful site to get some anequdotal data on gear that interests you. As I did the youtube scan for the REX5 I just purchased nearly everything that came up related to Spector basses screamed heavy metal. Since you're involved in marketing these fine products is it possible to get more gear reviews up on youtube that show the wonderful flexibility inherent in the Spector product line. It would help us poor schmucks out that don't have a lot of experience with the product.
Just so you don't get the wrong impression, I'm not some kid that just bought his first upscale bass. I've been playing for a number of years and have Alembics, Pedullas, Warwicks, Fenders, etc. Always wanted a Spector and always wanted a Gibson Tbird - the REX5 just looked like the perfect solution, can't wait to get it into my hands next week.
 
I don't recall saying that I hated Fenders or Ricks...it's a matter of personal taste at the end of the day. Blanket of hate? C'mon, man. Has the debate well been that dry on here lately? That's a lot of drama.
I see your point, and I hope you live your dream of touring with that train wreck of a band.
What amazes me is that I have never met anyone who likes Nickelback, but they are huge, for some reason.
I'm sure their bassist loves his Spector. The rest of us will take the bad with the good.

Jeez man, we get it....you don't like Nickelback. Personally, I can't name one song by them but someone posted a live video of them in one of these threads and Mike Kroeger was playing a Buckeye Burl NS-5XL that had a killer tone to it. If I hear tone like that, I look past the music and want to know the gear they are using to get that sound.

You ask if the debate well has been dry lately but yet you ask if Nickelback can be removed from the Spector history books. Unless you were joking but I would never not buy a bass just because someone from a band i wasn't a fan of used that brand.
 
Man this thread moves fast! Looked away for a half day and 3 pages went by.

On the topic of strings, I've only tried the La Bella and the Rotosound tapes and liked the La Bellas a lot, didn't care for the rotos. I'll look into the GHS tapes as well.

To the other posters on this thread on the topic of Spectors = metal. I'm completely new to to the Spector clan (in fact my newly purchased REX is in transit so I really can't officially lay claim to any real Spector knowledge). But as a first time buyer I can offer a possibly interesting perspective to the gentileman from Spector on this thread that asked why people equate the product with metal. Spector can market on it's website all it wants and that's a good thing (nice website by the way), but lacking any copies to try out in a local store many of us turn to youtube to hear what some equipment sounds like. Of course most of us don't put 100% faith in the accuracy or quality of youtube vids but it is a useful site to get some anequdotal data on gear that interests you. As I did the youtube scan for the REX5 I just purchased nearly everything that came up related to Spector basses screamed heavy metal. Since you're involved in marketing these fine products is it possible to get more gear reviews up on youtube that show the wonderful flexibility inherent in the Spector product line. It would help us poor schmucks out that don't have a lot of experience with the product.
Just so you don't get the wrong impression, I'm not some kid that just bought his first upscale bass. I've been playing for a number of years and have Alembics, Pedullas, Warwicks, Fenders, etc. Always wanted a Spector and always wanted a Gibson Tbird - the REX5 just looked like the perfect solution, can't wait to get it into my hands next week.

As someone else who doesn't have a Spector dealer nearby to test new basses, I agree with a lot of these points. The additional tone videos that will be coming out soon are definitely a step in the right direction for Spector's marketing, I really enjoyed the first one.

I also just bought a Rex5 today and I'm super excited to receive it - I am the kid that just bought his first upscale bass! :)
 
I don't recall saying that I hated Fenders or Ricks...it's a matter of personal taste at the end of the day. Blanket of hate? C'mon, man. Has the debate well been that dry on here lately? That's a lot of drama.
I see your point, and I hope you live your dream of touring with that train wreck of a band.
What amazes me is that I have never met anyone who likes Nickelback, but they are huge, for some reason.
I'm sure their bassist loves his Spector. The rest of us will take the bad with the good.

sorry man, I didn't mean to come at you..... If you have such a distaste for NB I figured you must not like those brands, if you would accept NB playing them.

I'm just tired of all the hate on NB. Obviously people like them, I'm sure musician in particular would rather listen to something else. But people do like them.

if they are a "train wreck of a band", then count me in!! They are living the dream man. They are (or at least were) self produced, so they must like the music they are playing, they travel the world playing the music they love and despite all the "haters" out there continue to be successful.

I wouldn't say its my dream to go on tour with them, but seeing as my band plays "radio rock" they are definitely on my list of bands I would love to tour with.

I'm done, lol

on a happier note, I picked up my rack case for my rack build. Coolest part is I got it from the guy that runs the Gin Blossoms practice/recording studio down in Tempe, AZ. I met him there and got to play their gear and see the place (attached to a brewery). It had a real cool vibe, and got to talk to a cool sound engineer.
 
Hey guys, finally got some vids for you!
http://bah819.blogspot.com/2012/02/colin-dooman-and-griffin-mcshane-mad.html
A friend of mine filmed our set at a local open mic night. The turnout was disappointing, but we still played well and the Spector sounded great. Thought you guys might want to give it a listen.
Hope the link works- I posted from my phone.
Also, we did 2 Reel Big Fish covers (everything sucks and sellout) and 2 jams.
 
You ask if the debate well has been dry lately but yet you ask if Nickelback can be removed from the Spector history books. Unless you were joking but I would never not buy a bass just because someone from a band i wasn't a fan of used that brand.[/QUOTE]

I grew up listening to Pantera, Metallica, Sepultura, Testament,etc... Didn't really care for Nickelback and stuff like that but man when you play one of their songs the girls fill the dance floor. And it's never a bad thing when girls fill the dance floor. Especially when some those girls go home with you. That last part for single guys only...hehe...:bassist:
 
Here's my two cents on the Spector being a Metal bass discussion...I usually play several different styles of music on a regular basis...many times in the same set! (funk, R&B, Salsa, Caribbean Steel drum, jazz, blues and the occasional rock tune)

I have had many basses from many brands (Fender, EBMM, Peavey, Warwick etc) come thru my stable and Spector is by far the most versatile bass that I have ever owned! :bassist:
 
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