Btw...its so weird how we each come from different places and end up in the same place. I seriously stayed WAY far away from nu-metal until it was kinda "over". The running joke with laz about "tough guy rock" is the reason why. Im old enough to have grown up in the time when punks didnt necessarily find themselves welcome among metal kids. In fact,.growing up wearing a circle jerks shirt meant that finding two or more guys wearing Megadeth or Priest shirts could get you really hassled....so when nu-metal came along all the guys I used to see hasslin my friends were now into nu-metal, or the Jocks that used to wanna beat up the "punk freaks" were...so for the longest time I ignored that whole genre as being for the d-bags that hassled people..hell, I wouldn't even listen to tool cos of some of these fans. It wasn't until a drummer in my band just kept pushin tool and deftones on me that I finally relented due to his otherwise good taste..it was kinda cool to kinda appreciate it in the same way I can appreciate the who....its probably a generational thing too, cos by the time you guys now in your twenties were getting into it there wasnt that divide anymore, so you didnt have the baggage I did.