Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread 29: "Please Huff Responsibly"

[Corey Y]

yea i got nickle or chrome mine. Sucks you dont live near me for jamzzz

Likewise, but it sucks I don't live near ANYONE for jams.

Aged gold hardware looks better then chrome IMO. But as far as fresh looking hardware, yeah chrome definitely beats out gold.

My favorite look is aged nickel, personally. The gold hardware on my LP custom turned to sh*t IMMEDIATELY. They're pitted and the gold plating faded. I agree the gold hardware on the old LP Customs looks cool aged.

 

[Lazarus.Bird]

The gold hardware on the Ibanez I sent Balog (29 years old I think) aged pretty well. It still looked pretty good and the bass had definitely seen some road use.

 

[bassboysam]

What are your guys tips on "Evil-ing" up a song? We got a tune that's happier than we want but we love the riff.

Minor keys? (D Minor is the saddest of all keys)

Evil harmonies?

Slow it down?

Double bass?

More fuzz (is that even possible)?

Throw in the flat 3; or flat 6 for something a little more jazzy blues. i also like using the 2. i like replacing the 5 with a flat 6 in a chord progression too.

 

[Ancient Tone]

It was the song I posted a few pages back. The main riff is too bouncy (I swear I didn't write it) and any attempts to "evil" it up just complicate things. I'm thinking we'll need to add some slick harmonies to make everyone happy. I just wondered what all y'alls go to tricks were.

My tricks are dissonant chords and middle eastern scales.

When I get home I'll back track and listen to the link.

My favorite look is aged nickel, personally. The gold hardware on my LP custom turned to sh*t IMMEDIATELY. They're pitted and the gold plating faded. I agree the gold hardware on the old LP Customs looks cool aged.

Aged hardware in general looks cool, and hey atleast you didnt have to wait 20 years for it relic itself.

 

[dunwichamps]

sometimes its all in the feel of how you play it 2.

 

[change-jug]

It's a Hotrod SG. They made them in limited quantities. There was also a hotrod LP too with similar appointments.

Ah,thanks dude! I remember when those came out,now that you mentioned them.

Tele's aint nothing to f*ck with

word yo.

 

[Lazarus.Bird]

Question for you guys, since you're talking about playing flats in scales and such. When you are trying to write new riffs/songs, are you consciously attempting to play in a certain key? Or does the riff kind out come out naturally because it sounds good, then you recognize the key, and come up with possible changes to the riff based on certain intervals?

Now that I'm finally getting my feet wet with theory, I'd really like to hear some of this stuff. Especially from you Sam, since you seem to be a busy bass player (not a dig, I think it fits your style great!) and always have really interesting stuff going on.

 

[Mattosaur]

I tend to start from a scale, roughly. I try to find a few notes, or changes really (the movement between those notes) and then I try to fill it in. I think it makes me pretty boring, actually, but it's something I'm working out of. If you do work from scales early in the writing process, you have to make sure you know a lot of them or else you get stuck in the minor pentatonic rut.

 

[dunwichamps]

i just play randomly to whatever comes into my head, its fairly free conscious flowing approach.

 

[Corey Y]

My tricks are dissonant chords and middle eastern scales.

When I get home I'll back track and listen to the link.



Aged hardware in general looks cool, and hey atleast you didnt have to wait 20 years for it relic itself.

I have that weird ph in my skin that stains certain hardwoods and makes my hands turn purple/black if I don't wear gloves, learned that from when I used to mill. My dad has the same thing. Apparently that's the scientific secret to MOJO. It's also the reason I have stainless steel frets on most of my instruments. All my nickel ones turn green in no time flat.

Feel free to send me all your hardware for my premium hardware relicing service.

 

[Corey Y]

By the way Ancient Tone, Bass Central has a used Lakland Skyline 5 string with maple board for cheap on sale. I posted a link on Friday I think, but you might have missed it.

 

[mc_muench]

Wino says, "Flatted 5th".

Love that part of SHSH, hes not even plugged in. SO HEAVY!!!

 

[father of fires]

Oldcrow can confirm that I am a riff machine but they all tend to be in the same key so it makes mixing and matching parts easy. If given a key to work in then I'll most likely write something that isn't very "me" but still decent.

If I need a fill then I'll go with something minor pentatonic with an added flat fifth for chromatic runs.

 

[Ancient Tone]

I have that weird ph in my skin that stains certain hardwoods and makes my hands turn purple/black if I don't wear gloves, learned that from when I used to mill. My dad has the same thing. Apparently that's the scientific secret to MOJO. It's also the reason I have stainless steel frets on most of my instruments. All my nickel ones turn green in no time flat.

Feel free to send me all your hardware for my premium hardware relicing service.

Ahhhh I've heard of that before, from what i understand it really limits what instruments you can play. I feel for ya bro.

Noted!!!

 

[dunwichamps]

TJ (wood wizard) also has some hardcore acidic sweat, eats through his strings very quick.

 

[Ancient Tone]

By the way Ancient Tone, Bass Central has a used Lakland Skyline 5 string with maple board for cheap on sale. I posted a link on Friday I think, but you might have missed it.

Thanks!!! on my way to look now!

 

[LOCOPELAND]

Keko quit?! F*CK! and I missed last night's show in Seattle. Double f*ck!

 

[Lazarus.Bird]

I'm 100% a "play what sounds and feels good" player and it has resulted in low consistency, high value riffs. In all my bands, whenever I came up with something it was usually used, but I come up with something very infrequently. I'm hoping all this hard work and bass lessons will help change that part.

 

[Ancient Tone]

Awwww it's a great price but its a 55-01 really want a 55-02.

On the upside our guitar player brought a case to me this weekend and asked me to fix up what was inside so that i could play a high end 5 string without having to buy one. Inside the case was a EBMM Ray35 HH It needs a set up really really bad and needs to be cleaned hardcore but it could tide my GAS for right now being able to use that instead. I get double the MM pickups. Only downside is the rosewood fretboard, but it's not mine so I'm not complaining.

 

[Corey Y]

Ahhhh I've heard of that before, from what i understand it really limits what instruments you can play. I feel for ya bro.

Noted!!!

I never really cared, but I do have some instruments that aged REALLY quick because of it. My old Ric and all my guitars being the worst examples. I have discovered that stainless steel frets and maple or ebony boards last a lot longer for me. The oils in my hands seem to destroy nickel alloy frets and rosewood pretty quick. I had an incident a couple years ago when I bought new glasses with those transition tint lenses. Within 6 months they got etched on the inside of the lenses, to the effect of just looking permanently foggy.