Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread 29: "Please Huff Responsibly"

[Ancient Tone]

I never really cared, but I do have some instruments that aged REALLY quick because of it. My old Ric and all my guitars being the worst examples. I have discovered that stainless steel frets and maple or ebony boards last a lot longer for me. The oils in my hands seem to destroy nickel alloy frets and rosewood pretty quick. I had an incident a couple years ago when I bought new glasses with those transition tint lenses. Within 6 months they got etched on the inside of the lenses, to the effect of just looking permanently foggy.

Damn thats pretty harsh, I feel you on the glasses mine get tore up really quick working automotive chemicals all the time. Just having brake fluid in the air eats away the coatings in a heartbeat.





Ot: Awwwwww sheeeit this would be a fun lil touring rig...

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[LOCOPELAND]

Ot: Awwwwww sheeeit this would be a fun lil touring rig...

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Damn! That's awesome!

 

[Corey Y]

Ot: Awwwwww sheeeit this would be a fun lil touring rig...

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Damn, that's a good price (and negotiable) if all of that is original and in good shape.

 

[Ancient Tone]

I mainly just want the cabs, but if i had the cash i would def take the whole shebang. We played with a band the other night whose bassist was playing a bi-amped SS markbass rig that sounded pretty good, he's supposedly a member on here. Kinda made me have some faith in SS gear, especially for touring, I just didnt dig the high end his rig had, too metallicy for me.

 

[dunwichamps]

acoustic is a solid rig. Its why im copying there preamp for stuff

 

[father of fires]

acoustic is a solid rig. Its why im copying there preamp for stuff

Heeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was my idea!


Please tell me it's the 140 preamp!!!!!!!11111!!!!!

 

[mlove]

Some catching up:

Did anyone like the band name Thunder Smoke?

Thunder Smoke sounds cool but like laz said making 1 word out of it would be better.
I always wanted name a band "Free Beer and Cigarettes". I think you'd get a wicked turn out for your shows with that name on a gig poster.

The Les Paul seems to be the most common guitar in this genre.

Every band I've ever been in I been tripping over les pauls. Kind of tired of the Les Paul/Marshall tone really (sounds funny coming from a guy playing fender/ampeg bass gear I know). I've been on a big tele kick the last year of so as far as my favorite guitar tone goes.

Speaking of, any suggestions on good music DVDs/documentaries for our genre?

Blood Sweat + Vinyl is cool. If your into Rush they too have a doc out "beyond the lighted stage" I think is the name of it.

Also I have a delema...
Both Om and Red Fang are playing in Chicago Nov 17th.
Which do I go to?

Om

Man this is some weird stuff but I dig it http://mangoo.bandcamp.com/

Mangoo rule. their newer small stone release is killer
Also I ordered a replacement neck from warmoth (maple/maple) for my fu*^#ed 95 mia jazz bass. 5 or 6 weeks and it will be mine!
Longes post ever. Fingers are tired. Later

 

[dunwichamps]

Heeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was my idea!


Please tell me it's the 140 preamp!!!!!!!11111!!!!!

140 preamp but with a baxandall and an effects loop.

talk to Corey about it

 

[Ancient Tone]

140 preamp but with a baxandall and an effects loop.

talk to Corey about it

Hmmm is that why you decided to go back a bax stack for my pedal?

 

[dunwichamps]

Hmmm is that why you decided to go back a bax stack for my pedal?

No more for the reason it has a better shelving approach than the one I suggested before and works better with the mid band resonance EQ

 

[Ancient Tone]

No more for the reason it has a better shelving approach than the one I suggested before and works better with the mid band resonance EQ

ahhhhh gotcha. BTW funds will be headed your way probably Wednesday, I forgot today is National "Pirate who claimed to have found this land first" day, and all the banks are closed.

 

[father of fires]

No more for the reason it has a better shelving approach than the one I suggested before and works better with the mid band resonance EQ

Heeeeyyyyyyyy1111!!!!!!!!111111!!!

Edit: Just kidding. I'm glad you switched.

I'm actually working on Jfet emulation of Tube Op Amps over at diystompboxes. Interesting stuff. I could sell this to all the lawyers at TGP and make a fortune!

 

[bassboysam]

Question for you guys, since you're talking about playing flats in scales and such. When you are trying to write new riffs/songs, are you consciously attempting to play in a certain key? Or does the riff kind out come out naturally because it sounds good, then you recognize the key, and come up with possible changes to the riff based on certain intervals?

Now that I'm finally getting my feet wet with theory, I'd really like to hear some of this stuff. Especially from you Sam, since you seem to be a busy bass player (not a dig, I think it fits your style great!) and always have really interesting stuff going on.

Busy bass player? I don't think I'm busy enough. I really just follow the main riff for 80% of what I do. My suggestion though is to learn the intervals, just pick a root note on your bass and then play root-1, root-b2, root-2, root-b3, root-3 etc. get a feel for the "mood" of the interval. also make sure you not only go up the intervals but also below the root. too many times bass players write riffs and fills going up the scale when throwing in notes below the root can sound really cool and give some nice contrast to what the guitar is doing.

The second step is to understand the chord that is being played and what intervals work with that chord. If there isn't really a chord being played then you can use the intervals to imply the chord and that's where it can become interesting for a bassist. a lot of times the stuff we write the guitar is playing single note riffs, that's where I will try to imply chords by using various intervals. Say the riff is using a simple Root, 5 and b7, i'll throw in a b3 to imply a minor chord or maybe a 6 to give it a major blues feel. Intervals are so useful once you learn their effect on the song and mood.

 

[dunwichamps]

yea so far fitting the preamp into the enclosure is difficult. The Bass DI, no problem

 

[Lazarus.Bird]

Busy bass player? I don't think I'm busy enough. I really just follow the main riff for 80% of what I do. My suggestion though is to learn the intervals, just pick a root note on your bass and then play root-1, root-b2, root-2, root-b3, root-3 etc. get a feel for the "mood" of the interval. also make sure you not only go up the intervals but also below the root. too many times bass players write riffs and fills going up the scale when throwing in notes below the root can sound really cool and give some nice contrast to what the guitar is doing.

The second step is to understand the chord that is being played and what intervals work with that chord. If there isn't really a chord being played then you can use the intervals to imply the chord and that's where it can become interesting for a bassist. a lot of times the stuff we write the guitar is playing single note riffs, that's where I will try to imply chords by using various intervals. Say the riff is using a simple Root, 5 and b7, i'll throw in a b3 to imply a minor chord or maybe a 6 to give it a major blues feel. Intervals are so useful once you learn their effect on the song and mood.

Yeah, my teacher is a big proponent of learning intervals before scales, as are most of the respected learning tools out there it seems.

 

[father of fires]

yea so far fitting the preamp into the enclosure is difficult. The Bass DI, no problem

Have you looked at the viva analog 360 preamps for inspiration?

He actually uses inductors as well.

 

[Lazarus.Bird]

Happy Monday:

 

[Sunnburn]

Don't forget to mention your band's name. I can't tell you how many times I walk in to the middle of a set and have no idea who is playing. And often I never find out, because the band doesn't repeat their name before the end of the set.

(Better yet, get a banner or something to hang off an amp. Or wear your own tshirt.)

Ditto on dumba$$ bands never once mentioning their own name. When I saw Page/Plant the opener never mentioned their name. They didn't have any t-shirts or merch and I asked a ton of people at the show who they were. Nobody knew. They played a huge coliseum opening for Page/Plant and got no recognition. Bum for whoever that was.

 

[Corey Y]

I've made reference to that a few times. Nick is working out a preamp design for me. That way I can run my dirt pedals into the preamp, keep my delay and modulation effects in the loop, then run direct into a power amp. When I'm recording or at home I can just a DI off the board and reamp or do a cab sim in any fashion I want. I really like 70s solid state amps, but this way I can get as much volume as I need and not have to worry about running a separate effects loop for the pedals that get too squished running in line. Originally I was going to run the preamp of my Beta Bass out to a Class D power amp or the return of my MB800, but this way it's way more streamlined.

Nick really helped me simplify the idea and cut through the BS. I was getting way too convoluted trying to figure it out before.

 

[Mattosaur]

Yeah, my teacher is a big proponent of learning intervals before scales, as are most of the respected learning tools out there it seems.

Aren't intervals just the names for the different notes of a scale, and their relationship back to the tonic? (I've taken lessons, but my understanding of most of this stuff is pretty self-driven, and I often feel like I'm not quite fluent in musical theory, like a gringo ordering cervezas and asking where the bathroom is in Juarez.)