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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

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Korladis said:
Regular TB thinks that low B strings are some special magical thing that you need special cabs like Acme for. They also seem to think that you can only have a low B on a 5-string.
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Not only on TB. We've recently decided to go one string lower from D standard to A standard and when I mentioned it to a few of my musician friends they just stared at me like I've just gotten off a wall on Mars.
 
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Yeah, explaining to the normies that we play in drop b can be hilarious as they try figure out what that is, then almost inevitably they do that same look when they figure it out. Like Ive somehow offended them by tuning low.
 
#42,563
Jolagh said:
Because those green cabinets are notorious for lacking bass response, its all mid, which I guess is probably partially speaker choice and partially cabinet design issues. I want to jiggle peoples eyeballs with this thing. Also because I assume they wouldnt have enough volume for 3015s. If they would fit into that depth then I wouldnt care if it were deeper.

Edit: Maybe I should say that from what I've heard they lack low bass response compared to other cabinets. Maybe notorious is implying to much.



Thanks man, I appreciate the help!
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Depth doesn't really matter as much as total internal volume and port design. My cab is only 15" deep but has a lot of low end.

Jolagh said:
Yeah, explaining to the normies that we play in drop b can be hilarious as they try figure out what that is, then almost inevitably they do that same look when they figure it out. Like Ive somehow offended them by tuning low.
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I tune to regular B. I generally don't use drop tunings on bass.
 
#42,564
Jolagh said:
Thanks man, I appreciate the help!
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You have some wiggle room here. Volume between 320-370L looks good as long as you tune to around 55hz, which is what I would recommend for the 3015 for eye blur status. It will be an 8 or 2 ohm cab. Porting should be pretty easy with a 4" tall shelf port on the top and bottom, would have to reevaluate if you wanted them on the sides. Would need final baffle size to give the ball park depth on them though. Staggered driver lay out, looks like internal volume is about 25x50x18ish.
 
#42,565
Korladis said:
Depth doesn't really matter as much as total internal volume and port design. My cab is only 15" deep but has a lot of low end.


I tune to regular B. I generally don't use drop tunings on bass.
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Yeah, the reason i mentioned that is because i want it to end up the same width as a standard 4x12 roughly to try and have a consistent look on stage which means I figured itd have to get deeper.

I tune to drop B mostly because i play bass in this band like a rythm guitar and im not a terribly good musician so it just makes it easier to share ideas to tune to match the guitar.

CL400Peavey said:
You have some wiggle room here. Volume between 320-370L looks good as long as you tune to around 55hz, which is what I would recommend for the 3015 for eye blur status. It will be an 8 or 2 ohm cab. Porting should be pretty easy with a 4" tall shelf port on the top and bottom, would have to reevaluate if you wanted them on the sides. Would need final baffle size to give the ball park depth on them though. Staggered driver lay out, looks like internal volume is about 25x50x18ish.
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Awesome! Ill get a drawing put together, then ill post it for critique! Thanks for your help!
 
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Jolagh said:
Yeah, the reason i mentioned that is because i want it to end up the same width as a standard 4x12 roughly to try and have a consistent look on stage which means I figured itd have to get deeper.

I tune to drop B mostly because i play bass in this band like a rythm guitar and im not a terribly good musician so it just makes it easier to share ideas to tune to match the guitar.



Awesome! Ill get a drawing put together, then ill post it for critique! Thanks for your help!
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I just don't play power chords on the bottom two strings, really. And for me the octave shape is easier in standard BEAD.

My 2x15 is standard width and depth of a guitar 4x12, but is taller. Makes for a unified backline, and also easy packing.
 
#42,567
Korladis said:
I just don't play power chords on the bottom two strings, really. And for me the octave shape is easier in standard BEAD.

My 2x15 is standard width and depth of a guitar 4x12, but is taller. Makes for a unified backline, and also easy packing.
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Yeah I play a 5 string then tune B F# B E A and play power chords on the top 3 for baratone guitar emulation or drop down and play just the low B or F# depending on the texture im looking for. I use the high A for alot of incidental notes and stuff. Though its mostly because its easy to share ideas since shapes i play match up on the guitar. If I was playing bass right i probably wouldnt tune in drop either, but since we are a three peice and sonically are mostly aimed for a big roaring wall of sound it made more sense to me.

Yeah Im hoping this ends up being same width and depth but like twice as tall so it matches up with a stack.
 
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Netherlord said:
Naw I'm playing through Peavey Classic 400. Tbh, overdrive section of CL400 sounds mediocre, so I wanted some thing that I can use instead of pre-amp section of CL400. Someone in the Peavey Cult gave very good analogy. It's like you have a very bland milkshake but it's 4 liter milkshake.

I have Iron Fist Fuzz made by Lone Wolf Audio but sometimes the fuzz is too much
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That was my comment. I wish the EQ was more powerful. I also have the iron fist. It is a great muff, one of the best I've heard actually(I like the Hail Satan more though). It does however have the same issue I have with all muffs. Either it has enough bite but no balls, or balls and no bite. OD or Distortion is what you want. The crunch channel is weak as hell. I run the clean channel with pedals for dirt. If I had the right pedal preamp I'd run it into the effects loop.

Also, heed CL400Peavey. Dude knows what's up with amps and cabs.


CL400Peavey said:
Blending the channels, and really messing with the EQ helps a lot. As in I use the crunch channel for all mids, and use the clean to round stuff out. Makes either useless on their own, but I have found the amp to be a lot more expressive than I initially thought.



Pork Loin, Aguilar TH, JGR 1u rock pre are what I use.
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That is brilliant. I haven't tried that yet. Though I'd probably run it opposite. Clean for mids with the Ampeg style active mid and crunch for lows and highs. I don't see the fender style crunch getting middy enough for me.
 
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Turkeypills said:
That is brilliant. I haven't tried that yet. Though I'd probably run it opposite. Clean for mids with the Ampeg style active mid and crunch for lows and highs. I don't see the fender style crunch getting middy enough for me.
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Dime the mids on the fender channel, cut all the bass, and bring the trebble up from zero until you have enough presence, also run the pre gain way up.
 
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CL400Peavey said:
Blending the channels, and really messing with the EQ helps a lot. As in I use the crunch channel for all mids, and use the clean to round stuff out. Makes either useless on their own, but I have found the amp to be a lot more expressive than I initially thought.



Pork Loin, Aguilar TH, JGR 1u rock pre are what I use.
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Interesting as I am also loving classic 400 but dissappointed with the crunch channel Will give this a try. Is there no possibility to change the preamp valve for better breakup? Clean channel is soooo good I'll just keep using a pedal of needed :)
 
#42,573
D.M.N. said:
Just got the news from my mechanic: transmission is on its way out on the Audi. Guess I'm car-hunting again.
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I will never purchase another VAG product again, no matter how much I want a 4 door GTI or a Beetle RSi (I'd make an exception for that, actually).

Between the wife and we did like 5, and the last couple were just not fun experiences once you got past the fahrvergnügen part.

I cannot imagine adding the Audi tax to that. Christ.
 
#42,574
Turkeypills said:
Add me on face world: Michael Redcorn

I'd be happy to walk you through some things. I'm no expert but teaching is the best way to reinforce learning. I can do it here via PM as well but I don't check it that often so expect a delayed response.
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FB ate my only account because it was fake, so now I have to sit down and make a new one (with another carefully crafted fake name). But I will dot his. It sounds like a decent winter project for me.
 
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Anybody know what the guitarist for Grand Magus uses distortion wise? Or how to get there myself? I'm using an old Peavey Transtube Supreme and a 7 string Ibanez LP style guitar.

I have a Quantum Mystic, Fat Sandwich, Sabbra Cadabra, Swollen Pickle, and currently use my FatMetal for doomy guitar tones. I seem to prefer heavy distortion for doom, not that plenty of bands don't pull off fuzz in doom quite well. Not a big fan of fuzz for my personal doom tones, and I don't think he uses any fuzz anyway.

I'd also be fine with a Candlemass guitar tone. If any of these can get me close, or something relatively affordable can get me either tone, I'd love to hear it.

In other news, work sucks. Ready for the holiday break. Gonna listen to my "X-Mas" songs, which are traditional songs with Chthulhu-themed lyrics. Good times, and most people don't even notice.
 
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