Looks like GC had one for sale for 500 at one point. Which is kind of what i was assuming. 500 then take what youre willing to take.
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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
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I was watching a video of them recently and was trying to figure out what he was playing. I think he was using a Peavey T-40 before this. I have heard of the brand, but I can't remember where.
The BAT Revelation is a Klon clone and that one is tuned for bass. PPB and Pharaoh are muff based fuzzes. Verellen is a super boutique tube head builder. Khemmis must be doing well because that is not a cheap piece of gear. I've never heard of the SD pickup booster; I'd wanna check that out.
I love what Khemmis is doing, but I do think Dan Beiers gets burried in the mix.
I just figured it out.
The guitarists from Intronaut use Dunable (because the guitarist Sacha Dunable is the owner\lutheir)
Fun looking instruments, but way out of my price range.
The guitarists from Intronaut use Dunable (because the guitarist Sacha Dunable is the owner\lutheir)
Fun looking instruments, but way out of my price range.
Man, listening to in progress mixes, I can already hear people accusing us of using too much reverb.
But I don't give a ****. It sounds great.
But I don't give a ****. It sounds great.
They sure had some strange ideas about how to build pedals, back in the day.
Both the instrument and amplifier jacks on this Morley flanger are on the same side.
The control knobs ("phase shift," "center," and "harmonic emphasis") are also on the side (the opposite side from the jacks). There's a "harmonic coloration" switch on the same side as the jacks.
The stupid thing about having all this crap on the side is that the thing is massive. There's easily room on the top for all of those controls.
Both the instrument and amplifier jacks on this Morley flanger are on the same side.
The control knobs ("phase shift," "center," and "harmonic emphasis") are also on the side (the opposite side from the jacks). There's a "harmonic coloration" switch on the same side as the jacks.
The stupid thing about having all this crap on the side is that the thing is massive. There's easily room on the top for all of those controls.
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Early 90's BCR Warlock through Ibanez DE7 > Weeping Demon > Hail Satan Deluxe > Ibanez BB9 > Peavey T-Max > Crate 215
This is my new leave behind rig at a friends place. I've kinda neglected the T-Max but I think it sounds great even with the Crate Cab.
Feels good man. I'm finally not feeling like I'm gonna pass out at higher volumes or next to a drummer.
Pics of the Plasti-Dipped Warlock once I get around to it. Hope everyone is doing well.
This is my new leave behind rig at a friends place. I've kinda neglected the T-Max but I think it sounds great even with the Crate Cab.
Feels good man. I'm finally not feeling like I'm gonna pass out at higher volumes or next to a drummer.
Pics of the Plasti-Dipped Warlock once I get around to it. Hope everyone is doing well.
I'm a little late but I have both. I don't think the Throne Torcher sounds as good as the HM2 but it is a little more usable on bass because of the mids knob.
Those T-Maxes are great amps! I'll get one once I got some Money to spare! I got a session bass from that series and that's hell of a lot of volume even though it's only 200w into tiny 1x12s! The T-Max sounds more "Ampeg" than some of the SS/hybrid Ampegs :-D
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kinda into this, but i can't really find any info on it and i think the price plus shipping is a little high for something that could be a disaster based on my past online bass purchase fails
the only bass i don't really use is my sb-2 with flats, because of the projects i play in, but i don't want to get rid of it, because the neck is absolutely perfect and it's the only new bass i've ever gotten
kinda into this, but i can't really find any info on it and i think the price plus shipping is a little high for something that could be a disaster based on my past online bass purchase fails
the only bass i don't really use is my sb-2 with flats, because of the projects i play in, but i don't want to get rid of it, because the neck is absolutely perfect and it's the only new bass i've ever gotten
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^ wonder how the pickup in that thing sounds. I've been sort of interested in these too but something about the body contour turns me off. Like a lot of copy/lawsuit basses that didn't get every angle/curve quite right.
Maybe I'm weird, but if it doesn't look cool, I'm not as interested.
Maybe I'm weird, but if it doesn't look cool, I'm not as interested.
The overvaluation of those lawsuit basses really ruins them on the whole for me. The deal was supposed to be a solid bass for cheap then the prices started blowing up with the rest of vintage market. Not saying they can't be very good to great. Just not sure I'd buy one online without a chance to try it.
I'd still consider if I could find a cheap enough Rick or EB clone, but not so sure if I'd take up an old Fender copy when I can get a brand new one for so much less.
Oh yeah, and agreed about the ridiculous prices on lawsuit/copy/knockoff stuff.....especially the Rickenbacker copies, which I've seen go for more than an actual legit Rick. Whadeefuuuck, Batman.
Some of the higher quality stuff that came out of Japan sometimes gets a pass......sometimes
Some of the higher quality stuff that came out of Japan sometimes gets a pass......sometimes
I'm not so sure overvalued is accurate. Price is absolutely dependent on brand and rarity. Ibanez and some of the other brands out of the Matsumoku plant are the most highly valued. T Birds and Rics are the most sought after basses for sure. They usually sell between $700 and $1400 usd. Jazz and P basses are worth like $3-600. The quality of some models is also on par or better than vintage Fenders or other American made instruments. I know my 75 ibanez Jazz felt literally identical to a 73 fender I played at a local vintage guitar shop. The fender pickups sounded better but the ibanez felt more sturdy and has a LOT of figuring in the wood. The fender had a flat sawn one piece neck and the ibanez is a 3 ply maple.
Some Japanese basses do suck. Vintage Ibanez lawsuit... it's more common that the instruments themselves are killer and the pickups suck than it is that the instruments suck. Even then the pickups can be good.
It's an inflated market sure, but they aren't overvalued in my opinion.
And for real if someone paid new or even used Ric price for a lawsuit Ric, they are beyond stupid or collectors with more money than sense.
I have $250 in this bass. The fretboard is flamed all the way across and the center ply of the 3 piece is Birdseye maple.
The neck is probably the best fender style neck I have ever played.
The last time I was considering purchasing lawsuit/Matsumoku basses was many years ago (about 10-15 years ago). Over a few years, I was watching the market, checking out ones I came across in stores and later on cl, reading up on their histories from various and scattered sources. When I first started looking into them, it was common for a good lawsuit bass to go from around $200-400 (I know this was right around 2001-2 because I was just finishing up college). By the time, I finally had some money aside a couple years later, prices had shot up in the $5-800 range. There was a perception when I first started looking into them, that the lawsuit basses were undervalued, thus the interest and climb in prices. Did it vary by brand? Somewhat. Was that jump in price (and the continual climb in valuation) based on rarity? Again, somewhat. The 70s aren't happening again except in some quantum universe which doesn't have access to this universe's ebay unfortunately.
But a perception fueled a demand which took the lawsuit basses out of the realm of undervalued. I felt like I watched it in real time over a few years as I was socking away little by little as I desperately wanted upgrade my crap Epiphone p-copy but was sooo epicly broke (again, this was just around the time I finished college, the economy was garbage, I was working a couple jobs, and could basically feed and shelter myself and put gas in my car to get to work and that was about it). The perception changed from being lesser copies to being superior workmanship to their counterparts. So it can't just be availability playing a role. What I found in playing various lawsuit basses is that, like I mentioned in my prior post, some are surprisingly good, some are trash, and most are just okay.
So, yes, I think overvaluation is an apt term here. You may still disagree, but I think your disagreement is whether they are overvalued or now correctly valued. For so many just okay models out there, I would have to put myself in the "generally overvalued" camp as I think a perception has taken root that isn't entirely justified. That is, generally overvalued with the every so often big score like your Ibanez.
Depends really, for me, as to whether I think they're correctly valued or overvalued.
I think an old Matsumoku Aria is always a solid bass to go with.
As far as the copies... well, it varies a lot.
