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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
- Thread starter Korladis
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Yeah. I've been focused on Grad School for the past 2 1/2 years, and have only played enough to keep my tendons from tightening too much. I also had a job that, well, it was unofficially conveyed to me that it would be a good idea to stay away from any public forum with the word "Stoner" in it. I took the hint, but I left that gig a while back.
I missed you guys!
Total Darkglass convert here. I heard the B3k a couple of years ago and I loved it, but I couldn't justify spending that much on a dirt pedal.
Fast fwd to last fall, and my svt crapped out. I never really liked it and I started looking around for something I liked more (and that could freaking carry myself).
I ended up getting the DG microtubes head, which has the B3k and vmt built in. I love it very much. It's super flexible and has a footswitch for clean/dirty. Perfect for flipping between swooshy and grind lol.
This is our new EP. I used a Mexican jazz straight into the microtubes - all the dirt you hear is the head on the b3k setting.
Plus I can carry my own amp now. My head went from 85 pounds to 6
So after hearing your ep I visited your website to listen to some live stuff and I must say you sound fan fn' tastic!
So after hearing your ep I visited your website to listen to some live stuff and I must say you sound fan fn' tastic!
Thanks for the kind words.
To be honest I wasn't a jazz fan to start with, but we tune to drop C and I couldn't get the clarity and definition I wanted with other basses. I reluctantly got a jazz bass and then tried about a dozen different sets of strings til I felt good about what was coming out lol.
Thats awesome how everything worked out for you. I had a beautiful Fender Jazz tuned to C that I just wanted to try out to see if the sounds would jive with what I was doing and kind of like you I went through many strings, added orange tone drop capacitor, Seymour Duncan quarter pounders, messed with amp settings and pedals and figured out it was never going to work for me. I loved the thin fast neck and overall feel but now that I think about it I should have just pulled out the neck pickup and put in a Thunderbird soap bar for that low end growl. Had I heard your sound earlier I might have just bought the same head as you.Thanks for the kind words.
To be honest I wasn't a jazz fan to start with, but we tune to drop C and I couldn't get the clarity and definition I wanted with other basses. I reluctantly got a jazz bass and then tried about a dozen different sets of strings til I felt good about what was coming out lol.
I do the former, I like it better that way.
Yeah this is nearly exactly what I do, except I only use the octave-up as an accent, not an always-on.
I actually run three rigs in parallel, one "bass", two "guitar". I hacked my bass (squier PJ) so the P pickup and the bridge pickup have separate outputs. The P pickup goes to the bass rig (through some OD and Fuzz). The bridge pickup (I jammed a strat-sized dual rail humbucker in there) goes to the two guitar rigs. the bridge pickup signal goes to a wah, then a splitter (just my boss TU-2 tuner), one path then goes from TU-2 straight into guitar amp 1 (beefed up Marshall 2204-ish master volume thing I built), the other path goes from the splitter->EHX Nano POG octave up-> mid-pushy OD -> Marshall 4104 combo.
Yeah it sounds alright. When all the fuzz and OD and octave is on, and I hit the wah (ibanez Weeping Demon, love it), it is super hella max gnarly. The octave effect sends the wah sweep up the octave this way, in parallel with the original it's pretty huge sounding. Gotta watch your ground loops and phase if you get that crazy.
I don't need another pedal but Weeping Deamon keeps calling me every time I see it in print or a pic. At this point need a PT Pro to sprinkle all the huge enclosure pedals in one place.
This is very Un-Doom, I know. But my pedal board right now consists entirely of: the Eventide H9. The Pitchfuzz algorithm is flipping insane.
Okay, I expect to be banned for this. I can handle it...
Okay, I expect to be banned for this. I can handle it...
Eight string bass.
Split your signal to a guitar amp.
I've seen a lot of guitar and drums duos, and I think in doom, doing it that way is backwards.
Bass has a greater frequency range than guitar. Yeah, sure, lots of those guitar only duos use an octave down, but it never sounds as full or as good as an actual bass. Whereas with a lot of distortion, fuzz, etc. bass can definitely fill up the sonic space normally occupied by guitar.
Also, I think the EHX Ravish Sitar could work well there. Of course, it does require you to know what key you're playing in for it to work properly...
Not off the top of my head, but I can check.
Dustern is recording tomorrow.
Before loading my bass rig into my minivan, I tried using my Sunn Concert lead into the effects return of my Mesa D-180.
Nasty tone.
Before loading my bass rig into my minivan, I tried using my Sunn Concert lead into the effects return of my Mesa D-180.
Nasty tone.
After about 3 1/2 hours of jamming in a very hot room my svtcl just turned off. It was plugged into a power strip with a couple other things plugged in not sure if that did it. Stepped out for a smoke break it started up just fine but we were done. Anything like that happen to y'all?
To my knowledge that's the biggest design flaw of an SVT. There isn't enough space in the chassis for 6x6550 so it tends to run pretty hot. It get it looked at just to see if anything is starting to go.
What, Sunn Concert Leads?
Didn't seem to be difficult at all for my tech. He had the chassis out when I went over there, and there's a lot of room.
At yesterday's recording session with Dustern, the engineer (a good friend who's also in the band Dwell) didn't even bother with a DI track for the bass. He immediately mic'd up the cab with a Cascade Fathead II, and put a Neumann for the room mic at the wall.
Actually I'm not sure we're going to reamp anything. We have another session to double the guitars, maybe some of the bass, and overdub some fixes, as well as do keys and vocals.
Ah, yeah, they are fairly complex beasts, especially with the two-part chassis.
It was evident with the first test take of the first song that we wouldn't be needing one. I've never heard my bass sound so good recorded.
I imagine the mics used are really expensive.
