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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

You are braver than I am. I'm always afraid something will go wrong so I always get a DI track, just to be safe.
Looking forward to hearing the final product!

From my experience providing a Di allows to much room for someone else to F it up after i leave.
Chances are they'll run it through a fake svt with fake cab and a fake mic anyway.
Why not use the real thing?
Smoke'em if you got 'em.

Only been in a real studio a couple times but I never got along with anyone who fancied themselves a "producer". But an engineer is my best friend.
 
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From my experience providing a Di allows to much room for someone else to F it up after i leave.
Chances are they'll run it through a fake svt with fake cab and a fake mic anyway.
Why not use the real thing?
Smoke'em if you got 'em.

Only been in a real studio a couple times but I never got along with anyone who fancied themselves a "producer". But an engineer is my best friend.
Exactly.

Fortunately, this particular engineer is a friend from another doom metal band who I've done shows with. So he knows what's what.

The first hour or so was all mic placement (mostly for the drums; only small adjustments were needed for bass). One of the best recording experiences I've ever had.

Those mics are probably really expensive.
 
Exactly.

Fortunately, this particular engineer is a friend from another doom metal band who I've done shows with. So he knows what's what.

The first hour or so was all mic placement (mostly for the drums; only small adjustments were needed for bass). One of the best recording experiences I've ever had.

Those mics are probably really expensive.

Drum mic placement is so important. I don't don't know the first thing about doing it right, except that it takes time and careful listening. When I see an engineer set up drum mics in 10 minutes I just kind of mentally shrug "ok, it's going to be one of those sessions."
Seems like you had a good one though \m/
 
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Drum mic placement is so important. I don't don't know the first thing about doing it right, except that it takes time and careful listening. When I see an engineer set up drum mics in 10 minutes I just kind of mentally shrug "ok, it's going to be one of those sessions."
Seems like you had a good one though \m/
Yeah. More time spent initially means less time fixing stuff later.
 
Drum mic placement is so important. I don't don't know the first thing about doing it right, except that it takes time and careful listening. When I see an engineer set up drum mics in 10 minutes I just kind of mentally shrug "ok, it's going to be one of those sessions."
Seems like you had a good one though \m/

Ive tracked drums a few time with 4 mics using the Gyn Johns method. Doesn't take long to set up and my results have been satisfying - was just for my bands demos. Takes longer to set up the drums than the mics lol but I am by no means a professional.
 
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Eight string bass.

Split your signal to a guitar amp.

I've seen a lot of guitar and drums duos, and I think in doom, doing it that way is backwards.

Bass has a greater frequency range than guitar. Yeah, sure, lots of those guitar only duos use an octave down, but it never sounds as full or as good as an actual bass. Whereas with a lot of distortion, fuzz, etc. bass can definitely fill up the sonic space normally occupied by guitar.

Also, I think the EHX Ravish Sitar could work well there. Of course, it does require you to know what key you're playing in for it to work properly...


Not off the top of my head, but I can check.

8string bass... humm... never had one, hard to come by, mostly... weirdo aestheticly....

I'm thinking stoner bluesish stuff.

Ravish Sitar is not what I'm looking for. Maybe the bass Signal thru a "scooped" sansamp-style pre (I have a Dr. J) and octave up (Mooer Tender) with a sh*tload of distortion will do the trick.

shouldn't have sold my akai unibass.....
 
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8string bass... humm... never had one, hard to come by, mostly... weirdo aestheticly....

I'm thinking stoner bluesish stuff.

Ravish Sitar is not what I'm looking for. Maybe the bass Signal thru a "scooped" sansamp-style pre (I have a Dr. J) and octave up (Mooer Tender) with a sh*tload of distortion will do the trick.

shouldn't have sold my akai unibass.....

I think Zuam use a lot of the rav sitar.
I really don't know how else it could be useful.

 
8string bass... humm... never had one, hard to come by, mostly... weirdo aestheticly....

I'm thinking stoner bluesish stuff.

Ravish Sitar is not what I'm looking for. Maybe the bass Signal thru a "scooped" sansamp-style pre (I have a Dr. J) and octave up (Mooer Tender) with a sh*tload of distortion will do the trick.

shouldn't have sold my akai unibass.....

I do the parallel rig and send my upper octave through a Vox. Oddly enough if you only do single notes, an analogue octave up sounds more natural without coloring via eq/gain, but they don't always track as well. I use a low pass filter to take off some of the harsh pick attack on the octave up from my digital octaver. Here's the best example I can give at the moment. Novasun.bandcamp.com this was my band when we still had the guitarist with us. Anything that's not the lead is me.

Edit: wrong url my bad guys

yeah, but use a harmonizer or sth like that, I don't much like chords on bass so it would be cool to add a 5th to the octave-up tone.

Would you Bi-Amp or just blend both signals with a Boss LS-2 or similar and send to one amp? I could use a geetar preamp pedal to make the oct up singal Sound more geetar-like

It isnt a bi amp, as there is no cross over. Its a parallel split.

But I would use a guitar amp for the highs, so the mid range distortion from the amp is present.

CL400's got it right IMO.
 
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Re: mics n' stuff.....speaking as an engineer, there are a lot of good sounding mics out there for not a lot of money, like the Cascade Fatheads which are really good sounding ribbon mics that only go for a few hundred. Neumann mics usually get top dollar and probably are the most venerated, but if you have skills you can get really close to the sound of a high-dollar mic for much less cash.

Of course, all of this really hinges on a few other super important factors - does the instrument sound good? Is it in good playing condition? Is the amp good quality, working right etc? Are the drums/cymbals constructed of total chit? Do the drums sound good in the room/space they are being recorded in? Is the person playing the instrument well-rehearsed/capable/strung-out/emotionally fragile/etc?

Kraap in = kraap out, a $5000 mic won't make you sound like Elvis.
 
Re: mics n' stuff.....speaking as an engineer, there are a lot of good sounding mics out there for not a lot of money, like the Cascade Fatheads which are really good sounding ribbon mics that only go for a few hundred. Neumann mics usually get top dollar and probably are the most venerated, but if you have skills you can get really close to the sound of a high-dollar mic for much less cash.

Of course, all of this really hinges on a few other super important factors - does the instrument sound good? Is it in good playing condition? Is the amp good quality, working right etc? Are the drums/cymbals constructed of total chit? Do the drums sound good in the room/space they are being recorded in? Is the person playing the instrument well-rehearsed/capable/strung-out/emotionally fragile/etc?

Kraap in = kraap out, a $5000 mic won't make you sound like Elvis.
Thankfully, I have no interest in sounding like Elvis.
 
Meanwhile, the on-going craigslist comedy hour continues. I got turned down for an audition because I 'didn't have enough experience'.....which was funny to me because I started playing bass in the late '80s. I called the guy out on this and his song changed to 'you don't have enough stage presence'. Get da fu outta here.
 
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Meanwhile, the on-going craigslist comedy hour continues. I got turned down for an audition because I 'didn't have enough experience'.....which was funny to me because I started playing bass in the late '80s. I called the guy out on this and his song changed to 'you don't have enough stage presence'. Get da fu outta here.
Stage presence :roflmao:, whats with some clowns?, the worst ad Ive seen is where the band requires that the auditioning musician "must" have long hair or need not apply :roflmao:.