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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

just dropping in to say i'm off to see Bongripper this evening w/Primitive Man... looking forward to some low-tuned lowtunedness.

will try and resist doing my usual trick of getting hammered and accosting random TBers at the bar after.
Oh that is going to be amazing. I saw Primitive Man open for Weedeater and I was one green cookie and 5 beers in by that point and I never heard Primitive Man before, when the first chord struck I was pasted to the wall. F'n great show they put on.
 
No. But you may need a proper set up for the strings and tuning that

Looks like whoever strung it cut the strings too short, or at least too short to string it through the body. Not enough windings around the posts, in my opinion. I haven't gotten around to buying new strings yet.

I've always done my own setup, but that's on my 25 year old US-made Fender P Plus. No buzzing, ever. This Godin is a bit puzzling.
 
You just rattled off 4 of the most under-rated bands I can think of. Especially Egypt, who are amazing. I'd add Lo-Pan to that mix, and if you haven't checked out their new ep "Intensions", you're missing another great one.

I love Lo-Pan! I've been real busy the last year or so and haven't had a chance to check out the ep or a ton of other new stuff. I love getting lost in Samsara albums, turn em up and tune out. That first Egypt ep opened up a new world for me and I gotta say TF are a big favorite of mine. Can't ever get enough, best damn live show I've ever seen! They effin rocked out a small joint in Grand Rapids on mother's day a few years ago like they were playing an arena. There couldn't have been more than 30 peeps there. Those guys and All Them Witches have been a huge influence to me.

Anyone else going to the Maryland doomfest next weekend? So many good bands!

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That looks awesome! I'll have to plan out a trip there one of these years. I even got family that way.
 
Oh that is going to be amazing. I saw Primitive Man open for Weedeater and I was one green cookie and 5 beers in by that point and I never heard Primitive Man before, when the first chord struck I was pasted to the wall. F'n great show they put on.

Phew... yeah it was great! PM were pretty fierce as usual, 2nd time I've seen them. Bongripper were amazing live, such a great sound. I like the record but live was something else.
 
Very ripped at this moment....SYC?. Im not sure what that is right now.

No worries it's Somali Yacht Club. Very thick and full sounding.

Phew... yeah it was great! PM were pretty fierce as usual, 2nd time I've seen them. Bongripper were amazing live, such a great sound. I like the record but live was something else.

That sounds awesome, I've been killing to get to a good show lately. Might have to wait for when Elder and King Buffalo come round in October.
 
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Dear All,

Please elucidate me. I am relatively old (65) but am curious: *** is Stoner/Doom? In my mind's ear I envision extended range basses, lots o' speakers (maybe a mixure of sealed 10s and ported 18s) and lots o' watts (tube-driven, maybe?). I am trying to figure out the sound - is there a proto-typical doom/stoner band that could give me a clue?

Thanks.
Lots of speakers? Oh yes, definitely (or a couple big ones). Extended range basses? Not actually that common. Some people, including people on this thread, use them and love them, but overall the stoner/doom metal genre is still very much dominated by 4-string basses, usually passive ones. I use an old ported 2x15" cab (a Sunn 2000S), but the cab I see most commonly used is actually the Ampeg 8x10. Tons of distortion with the pedalboards and amps, as well. Often tube heads, but not always.

I would say Sleep's Holy Mountain album, especially the title song, is a good intro to the genre. Electric Wizard's "Dopethrone" as well.

Basically, being extremely loud, usually slow, and often low tuned is kinda the summation of the genre.

Naturally, there are many branches of this genre, just like all genres. Kyuss is a great example of the more "stoner" and "rock" part, and then you have Yob and Graves at Sea embodying more of the "doom" part.

Some is just heavier, slower, louder rock, while other bands borrow extensively from other metal genres, especially for vocal style.

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Lol, basically.

the reason i don't recommend Sleep is because, to me at least, the bass does not really stand out in the mixes, and Al's tone is very guitar-like. I find it hard to distinguish between the bass and guitars
Eh, sort of. I actually think Vol. 1 and Holy Mountain sound a lot better than Dopesmoker does.

Al sure has a lot of Rickenbackers witch blows my mind because of the settings he uses he actually hides most of the Ric tone. Kind of sad.
There isn't a "the Ric tone," lol. His is just one of many.

Every time I've seen Sleep his tone has been amazing, though.

dude plays an active 6 string through a SS setup, hardly doomy ;)
Whatever, still louder than most of our bands.

So we ended up firing our guitarist yesterday. We are trying to decide between just continuing as a two peice or finding a new guitarist. Im tired of band drama its been going on too long lol.
What happened?

just dropping in to say i'm off to see Bongripper this evening w/Primitive Man... looking forward to some low-tuned lowtunedness.

will try and resist doing my usual trick of getting hammered and accosting random TBers at the bar after.
Hell yeah.

Don't just accost random TBers. Accost Ron himself. :p

You just rattled off 4 of the most under-rated bands I can think of. Especially Egypt, who are amazing. I'd add Lo-Pan to that mix, and if you haven't checked out their new ep "Intensions", you're missing another great one.
I really dislike Egypt. Not personally, obviously. But their sound was a huge let-down for me, because I was hoping from the name and art that they'd be more, I don't know... different sounding.
 
Lots of speakers? Oh yes, definitely (or a couple big ones). Extended range basses? Not actually that common. Some people, including people on this thread, use them and love them, but overall the stoner/doom metal genre is still very much dominated by 4-string basses, usually passive ones. I use an old ported 2x15" cab (a Sunn 2000S), but the cab I see most commonly used is actually the Ampeg 8x10. Tons of distortion with the pedalboards and amps, as well. Often tube heads, but not always.

I would say Sleep's Holy Mountain album, especially the title song, is a good intro to the genre. Electric Wizard's "Dopethrone" as well.

Basically, being extremely loud, usually slow, and often low tuned is kinda the summation of the genre.

Naturally, there are many branches of this genre, just like all genres. Kyuss is a great example of the more "stoner" and "rock" part, and then you have Yob and Graves at Sea embodying more of the "doom" part.

Some is just heavier, slower, louder rock, while other bands borrow extensively from other metal genres, especially for vocal style.


Lol, basically.


Eh, sort of. I actually think Vol. 1 and Holy Mountain sound a lot better than Dopesmoker does.


There isn't a "the Ric tone," lol. His is just one of many.

Every time I've seen Sleep his tone has been amazing, though.


Whatever, still louder than most of our bands.


What happened?


Hell yeah.

Don't just accost random TBers. Accost Ron himself. :p


I really dislike Egypt. Not personally, obviously. But their sound was a huge let-down for me, because I was hoping from the name and art that they'd be more, I don't know... different sounding.

I can definitely get where you're coming from with Egypt. They definitely don't give off an Egyptian vibe. I still love their unique sound within a lot of the genre.

I do love me some Sleep tho...
 
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I can definitely get where you're coming from with Egypt. They definitely don't give off an Egyptian vibe. I still love their unique sound within a lot of the genre.

I do love me some Sleep tho...
I dunno, I guess I was intrigued by the name and artwork, and very disappointed by the sound, which to me seemed somewhat derivative.

Sleep never led me to expect them to be anything other than Sabbath worship. So it's surprising at the times when they aren't.
 
What happened?

I hate to cite the old creative differences cliche, but thats pretty much it. We noticed we were really struggling to make forward progress musically several months ago and really it came down to him being unable or unwilling to get into the same headspace as the drummer and I. After months of trying to get him to practice more and get on the same page as us we kind of gave up and asked him to leave. He was stuck in a rut playing 90s thrash style riffs amd solos that just wasnt working with the weird off time doom and prog riffs i was working on.

But in the end we spent months agonizing over trying to de-rut him before giving up and ended up losing a friend and a band mate.
 
I hate to cite the old creative differences cliche, but thats pretty much it. We noticed we were really struggling to make forward progress musically several months ago and really it came down to him being unable or unwilling to get into the same headspace as the drummer and I. After months of trying to get him to practice more and get on the same page as us we kind of gave up and asked him to leave. He was stuck in a rut playing 90s thrash style riffs amd solos that just wasnt working with the weird off time doom and prog riffs i was working on.

But in the end we spent months agonizing over trying to de-rut him before giving up and ended up losing a friend and a band mate.
Oh. One of those guys.
 
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I feel stupid, lied to, and betrayed.

I just found out Black Sabbath is not Heavy Metal,but is instead "proto' metal.

Real glad the Gen-Xers and Millenials set me straight on that. Such ignorance could'a been real embarrassing...

:)
"You just found out Black Sabbath is not Heavy Metal,but is instead "proto' metal". Now I just found out Black Sabbath is not Heavy Metal,but is instead "proto' metal. Please excuse me while I vomit :vomit:
 
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