Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

[thombo]

It seems audibly louder. With the surface area of the 810 I would assume it would be on par with that. But its louder then the 810 with just swapping heads at same settings. I have to turn a amp down to be where it was volume wise in the other cabs.

+1 I have a pair of older Mesa Road Ready Diesel 215s. Aside from being a pain to move (I like the Ampeg kickback), they are my perfect big cabs.

For years, I used a pair of Ampeg 810s. There were a few situations (festivals, etc), where I had a 215 as a backline cab and they were always crazy loud. At some point, I go the itch to try 215s. I tried to track down @JoeVictim's Yamaha 215s and he suggested checking out the Mesas.

I could use one cab and keep up with two 120 watt full stacks (though I still use both). With the 810s, I my Sunn 300T was almost dimed, with the Mesas I run it at about 11'o'clock. I find they have a more extensive low end and a more pronounced mid punch.

I really like the sound of Ampeg 810s, they are just inefficient for the size.

 

[ampegfuzz]

Most booger wood 810’s are dark and scooped. The older flatback and CTS loaded ones are a little more full range but don’t go as low. Supposedly the newer 810’s are the best of the bunch as the driver improved and made of plywood again. I had a hard time keeping up with the dual 810 backline the band provided me early on(their former bass players didn’t have funds so the band provided the rig). After a while I just ended up bringing 15 loaded cabs and haven’t looked back.

 

[gfen]

Apropos to nothing, I really want to share this because I've been listening to it for the last two weeks solid.

It's not really "stoner metal," and it sure as sh!t ain't "doom," but it's a pretty broad flag we fly around here so I feel it fits:



The third song, Strumtief, is absolutely mesmerizing.

 

[thombo]

Most booger wood 810’s are dark and scooped. The older flatback and CTS loaded ones are a little more full range but don’t go as low. Supposedly the newer 810’s are the best of the bunch as the driver improved and made of plywood again. I had a hard time keeping up with the dual 810 backline the band provided me early on(their former bass players didn’t have funds so the band provided the rig). After a while I just ended up bringing 15 loaded cabs and haven’t looked back.

I had a 70's square-back speaker (not a square box) and a plywood (not particle board) 90's 810. The 70's was much better built and sounded better, but neither was a loud cabinet. I just didn't realize it at the time. I haven't spent time with the new Ampegs, but like you, I'm not really in the market.

 

[Grahams Groove]

Abominable is another company I want to buy from, but have no NEED to. Or funds to...

Someday, when I’m more financially solvent, I’ll buy affordable boutique gear whenever and not have to worry!

I like the art quite a bit, but every time I think about buying his stuff it dawns on me that I'm more interested in the over-the-top designs than any of the sounds I've heard in demos. Also, I don't like his tactic of choking the supply and constantly pushing "last run ever", "only 2 left at this price", etc. His marketing tactic is to create this constant sense of limited editions, finals runs, and periodic sales. Then you see another run of the same pedal with the same designs and prices later. In particular I remember the "last one of these I'll ever make" and then within a month "Woah, found 5 more of these enclosures - these will be the last!" It's obnoxious, but I know he's not the only one...

I'm puzzled as to why the Cool Buzz isn't a fave in this thread.

Too obvious?

Maybe if it were discontinued and selling for $500 used on eBay?

It's doomtastic bong rock in a simple-to-set little box.

I've got one for sale in the classifieds if anyone wants to dance with Spicoli.

 

[br1qbat]

Apropos to nothing, I really want to share this because I've been listening to it for the last two weeks solid.

It's not really "stoner metal," and it sure as sh!t ain't "doom," but it's a pretty broad flag we fly around here so I feel it fits:



The third song, Strumtief, is absolutely mesmerizing.

Post-y Heavy-ish Psych. I dig it!

 

[Novarocker]

That was my first thoughts too. I really dig heavy psych

 

[br1qbat]

I'm looking to add a Bass Wah to my pedalboard. The obvious choice is the Dunlop Crybaby Bass Wah. I want a foot controlled wah, so auto wahs are out. Any opinions on the Crybaby? Any other makes/models I should check out?

 

[gfen]

I have a GigFX Subwah. I bought it because it popped up in the Guitar Center Used thread and was marked as "rare and unusual" by the guys there, so I jumped on it.

It's my only wah, so take that as you will. There's a noticeable, to me, gap when you switch it on/off by pressing the treadle. I've been thinking about replacing it.

I originally wanted a Morley Dual Bass as it seemed to meet the requirements on reading, I've since been more focussed on the Ibanez WD7.

I've also just been thinking of adding an expression pedal and something like a EHX Cock Fight or with my existent Envelope Phaser, but expression pedals are daunting and confusing.

 

[Grahams Groove]

I'm looking to add a Bass Wah to my pedalboard. The obvious choice is the Dunlop Crybaby Bass Wah. I want a foot controlled wah, so auto wahs are out. Any opinions on the Crybaby? Any other makes/models I should check out?

The Dunlop Geezer model is probably worth checking out, too.

 

[thombo]

I'm looking to add a Bass Wah to my pedalboard. The obvious choice is the Dunlop Crybaby Bass Wah. I want a foot controlled wah, so auto wahs are out. Any opinions on the Crybaby? Any other makes/models I should check out?

I have a Hotone Bass Press Volume/Wah/Expression. I'm don't use a wah frequent enough to endorse or disparage, but I'll throw in my $0.02 since you asked for options.

The Bass Press is a mini wah. I like the price ($70 on Reverb), sound, size, and that it serves multiple functions. It has blue LEDs that, when activated, light between the pedal base and expression pedal which makes for an easy visual cue for swells. The blue LEDs are off when it's not engaged. It clicks on and off like the guitar Crybabies and Vox wahs, but clicking a button when you push down in the toe position. Regardless of the function (wah, volume, or expression), the pedal can be disengaged.

Regarding sound, it is very synthy compared to other wahs I've tried, but I like it. I really dig it w/ an OC-2 and a Ram the Manparts w/ a heavy gate.

As I'm not a big wah user and use it most often as a volume pedal. As it is an active volume, it doesn't suck tone, and as it is a true bypass, I can take it out of the chain entirely when not in use.

 

[NOLA Bass]

The Dunlop Geezer model is probably worth checking out, too.

I've got the Dunlop Geezer. I really like it because it is switchless, and definitely fits in a heavy music setting tonally. I hate having to step on a wah to click it on/off. That is just me.

If that doesn't bother you, the EBS wah pedals are worth checking out. I had the EBS Stanley Clarke model. It is by far the most versatile wah (tonally) I have ever used.

 

[bassboysam]

I've got the Dunlop Geezer. I really like it because it is switchless, and definitely fits in a heavy music setting tonally. I hate having to step on a wah to click it on/off. That is just me.

If that doesn't bother you, the EBS wah pedals are worth checking out. I had the EBS Stanley Clarke model. It is by far the most versatile wah (tonally) I have ever used.

is the Dunlop true bypass? i had an old Dunlop Bass wah (the white one) years ago and it was switchless but really killed the tone when it was "bypassed".

I'd like to try the 535Q, i think having a Q control and volume are essential for a wah.

 

[Novarocker]

Cool to hear about the bass press, been thinking about trying one. I don't like the price tag, but the wah from xotic looks like it could fit the bill better than the 535q.

Personally I use the Dunlap white one, but a real early one that has a switch. I highly prefer the switch because cocked wah is a ton of fun and creates a lot of cool sounds with practice. The only downside to mine is that it loses some volume when engaged. I plan on modding it with a volume knob. I love the sweep, range, and width of the peak more than the others I've heard. Granted I haven't tried much else myself.

 

[br1qbat]

The Xotic Wah is intriguing with all those tweakables.

The newer Dunlop bass wahs (105q and mini) do have external vol and q knobs. Supposedly the wah sweep bypasses the lows and hits the mids/treble only.

The geezer sounds cool, but I can't figure out why the q control is buried in the guts.

Also saw the Tychobrahe/Chicago Iron Parachute Wah which sounds flat out amazing but its spendy.

 

[simon88wilson]

I think its all down to what type of wah sound you want really

I had a tychobrahe wah, ended up selling it as i couldn't get the tone i wanted out of it. Sounded great on guitar but the bass sound wasn't for me.

I used to own an Inbanez weeping demon, great pedal and so much tweakability, takes a lot of board space though and i do regret selling that one.

I currently use a guitar crybaby with a few tweaks to make it sound closer to what i want from it. I can't remember what i did but i used some of stinkfoot.se ideas and kinda messed around until i got what i wanted from it. I make my own effects so this is kinda up my street.

 

[cornfarmer]

I've got a newish Dunlop mini bass wah, and have no complaints. I might dust it off for rehearsal this week....

In other news, I rescued an old Acoustic Black Widow, which happened to have a very dead pickup. Sent it off to Sentell to rewind it and he did a killer job, just need to restring and do a set up for rehearsal.

 

[DJCalamari]

I have the old white one too with the vol and Q adjust on the bottom. I run it first in my chain and don't notice any extra noise or tone suck. The sound is in the high/treble range, but I like that in a wah. If I rock back and forth slowly, I can mimic a phaser sound, and real hard and fast it sounds like a decent envelope. Both sound great with a little dirt

 

[gfen]

Both sound great with a little dirt

I stand by the assertment that wah sounds best after an OD and before a fuzz. You get the best of everything.

 

[DJCalamari]

Hmmm... I have an Aftershock which I use for both – mostly OD. I switched out my compressor to run after (as a limiter I guess) and then into the VT which I'm using as "special sauce" when I have my own rig. Where would you put the wah in that chain?