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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

if you like the jazz dual pickup thing, find something in a p/p.
Sounds like a definite option. I’m cool with any number of pickups really. Stingray could be an option as well. I’m wanting to get a different vibe here lately. Maybe something with a bigger body as well. That was my interest in the RD or Bird, but I don’t know of many basses that have a double P other than BC Rich.
 
Sounds like a definite option. I’m cool with any number of pickups really. Stingray could be an option as well. I’m wanting to get a different vibe here lately. Maybe something with a bigger body as well. That was my interest in the RD or Bird, but I don’t know of many basses that have a double P other than BC Rich.

Blacktop jazz is p/p. I've heard good things about the kiloton as well if you want different.
 
Do any of you have "new bass anxiety"? :roflmao:
After a number of long awaited pieces of gear (sometimes VERY long awaited, like the Rusty Box) that I found in the end dissatisfying/disappointing, I have anxiety for this new bass that is on its way and that is the most expensive thing I ever bought. EVER.
Will it have a really LOUD output, like my current one? :nailbiting:
Will it sound BETTER? Harsher, heavier? :nailbiting:
And what IF NOT? Jeeesus why can't I just enjoy things :atoz:
yep. I bought a new B3k from Sweetwater, and I never buy pedals new. Half the threads on TB would have you believe it’s instant djent and that’s about it. Got it yesterday and found a ton of great sounds out of it. Very versatile imo.
 
yep. I bought a new B3k from Sweetwater, and I never buy pedals new. Half the threads on TB would have you believe it’s instant djent and that’s about it. Got it yesterday and found a ton of great sounds out of it. Very versatile imo.
That's because most posters on TB have extremely limited exposure to heavy music. There are some things that this site is great for. Conversations about current music, gear, and techniques aren't among them.
 
That's because most posters on TB have extremely limited exposure to heavy music. There are some things that this site is great for. Conversations about current music, gear, and techniques aren't among them.

TB is good for a laugh sometimes. I can't remember how many times I've read you need a 5 string if you plan on even so much as tuning down half a step.
 
TB is good for a laugh sometimes. I can't remember how many times I've read you need a 5 string if you plan on even so much as tuning down half a step.
Because jumping back to the D or C on a 5 is so practical instead of just down tuning.

I also enjoy the "Why would anyone want to tune below B" grumbling.

Don't get me started on the "A Fender Precision is perfect for everything." mentality.
 
if you want to play a bass then get a P, if you need another tone get a J....done
For the genres we typically discuss here, that may be more or less true.
Unless you are a Rick-ophile.
In the genres I am working in now, double humbuckers and longer scales are the way to go. There is also the ergonomics to look at. The belly scoop and neck on my Spector are pretty incredible. I never had the same comfort level with a Fender style design, regardless of maker.
 
TB is good for a laugh sometimes. I can't remember how many times I've read you need a 5 string if you plan on even so much as tuning down half a step.
Lol. Yes. Love those posts. Those and the "you play (add your subgenre of choice that they've never heard of) metal, so you need a pointy bass and a super clean clanky scooped amp, right?"
 
For the genres we typically discuss here, that may be more or less true.
Unless you are a Rick-ophile.
In the genres I am working in now, double humbuckers and longer scales are the way to go. There is also the ergonomics to look at. The belly scoop and neck on my Spector are pretty incredible. I never had the same comfort level with a Fender style design, regardless of maker.

Dude i have a spector rebop 5 mm. Super comfortable bass other than its neck dives like theres weights on it. I put a dark glass tone capsule in it for a preamp. Sounds spectacular. Wed been using a pbass through the whole recording and i rigged that up for a part the other day and fell back in love with its super aggro tone.
 
Dude i have a spector rebop 5 mm. Super comfortable bass other than its neck dives like theres weights on it. I put a dark glass tone capsule in it for a preamp. Sounds spectacular. Wed been using a pbass through the whole recording and i rigged that up for a part the other day and fell back in love with its super aggro tone.
I don't have too much trouble with dive on mine. It took me a while to find the right strap placement to deal with the longer scale of the Euro 5LX. As adverse as I usually am to wearing my basses up high, higher up around my midsection worked out the best. After I adjusted to the scale length, now 34" feel weird.
I have two now. I purchased the first one when the second one was no longer available. Then I found the second one again. They both have EMG pickups and preamps. Definitely a gritty and in your face tone. Not surprisingly it works very will with a B7K ultra. It seems like Darkglass drive pedals are almost made for Spector, Warwick, and Dingwall.

I wish I could have made a P bass work for my last band, which was more doom\stoner. I just never fell in love with the tones I got. Using a pick would have helped, but I can't play with a pick for more than a song or two before my hand craps up.
It would have also helped if my guitar players understood their tones better. One thought that Zakk Wylde was "doom" because of "doom crew" and the other never really understood the genre, even though he really liked Mastodon. They never left room for the bass.
 
I don't have too much trouble with dive on mine. It took me a while to find the right strap placement to deal with the longer scale of the Euro 5LX. As adverse as I usually am to wearing my basses up high, higher up around my midsection worked out the best. After I adjusted to the scale length, now 34" feel weird.
I have two now. I purchased the first one when the second one was no longer available. Then I found the second one again. They both have EMG pickups and preamps. Definitely a gritty and in your face tone. Not surprisingly it works very will with a B7K ultra. It seems like Darkglass drive pedals are almost made for Spector, Warwick, and Dingwall.

I wish I could have made a P bass work for my last band, which was more doom\stoner. I just never fell in love with the tones I got. Using a pick would have helped, but I can't play with a pick for more than a song or two before my hand craps up.
It would have also helped if my guitar players understood their tones better. One thought that Zakk Wylde was "doom" because of "doom crew" and the other never really understood the genre, even though he really liked Mastodon. They never left room for the bass.
Yeah mine also prefers to sit high its a 35 inch scale as well. Just with a music man style pickup. I had the same issue with picks on bass until i moved to these 1 mil tripoint picks. They have tons of room to grip so im less scared of losing them so i dont clench as hard.

I feel you on the guitar player thing. I have had the same issues to the point i now play more guitar than bass just so i could teach my doom metal loving brother to play bass so that everyone in the band understands what we are trying to do.
 
Not gonna lie, I was looking to buy one for Doom.














Of course I was going to route a hole for a soapbar about 1/2" from the bridge and set it up for BEAD though.
A la Leo Smee? I think on the first couple of albums he had a BC Rich like that.
I totally understand why a P works in a lot of doom or stoner bands. Context is important. A 4 string P with slightly loose strings, a pick, and an OCD or Rat is pretty damn awesome for filling in the space in a power trio, or where the guitar is going for a vintage driven tone that isn't super saturated.
My point has always been that a P can't fill in anywhere and everywhere every single time. There are times when it is the wrong weapon of choice. For Geezer levels of riffing, it is great. If you crank up the BPMs and put it behind some Mesa or Engl amps on full meltdown mode, it doesn't do to well. Throw in quick runs with multiple techniques and you have a mess on your hands.
Right tool for the job.
The only thing I really have against Fender P basses specifically is I find them boring to look at and very uncomfortable to play. I hate the 70s aesthetic, and is one of the things I can't get behind in the doom\stoner genres.
 
I like the sound of my Spector. It has an active soapbar EMG right close to the bridge like that. I was going to do a Pbass up like that just for fun and because I was looking for something with a thicker neck, since my Dean's cracked.

I was thinking about painting some wood cut stuff or something on it.

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I need another project.
 
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