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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

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I tried to get into black metal in the early 2000s. Bands like Cradle of Filth, Dimmu Borgir, Borknagar, Old Man's Child, Marduk, and Immortal tried to do something different with it, but I guess they weren't "trve kvlt " enough and were written off. A lot of "blackened " doom or current black metal just seems like too much effort has been put into sounding like garbage. Just not my bag anymore.
 
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socialleper said:
Bands like Cradle of Filth, Dimmu Borgir, Borknagar, Old Man's Child, Marduk, and Immortal tried to do something different with it, but I guess they weren't "trve kvlt " enough and were written off.
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I wouldn't say written off, just dissed by people who think that the only worthy black metal material are the ones composed/performed by euronymous and/or dead. They do the same with mayhem since the blasphemer era, and don't seem to have that much bearing on what happens with black metal

There are a lot of successful bands doing things this kind of people consider blasphemies

Like using electronic sounds:



or being jazzy:

 
#50,943
socialleper said:
I tried to get into black metal in the early 2000s. Bands like Cradle of Filth, Dimmu Borgir, Borknagar, Old Man's Child, Marduk, and Immortal tried to do something different with it, but I guess they weren't "trve kvlt " enough and were written off. A lot of "blackened " doom or current black metal just seems like too much effort has been put into sounding like garbage. Just not my bag anymore.
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Immortal is a favorite here. Dimmu is also pretty good. Ever try Emperor? Dissection is also fantastic. For some reason I’m struggling to think of other standouts.
 
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kleinenenten said:
Immortal is a favorite here. Dimmu is also pretty good. Ever try Emperor? Dissection is also fantastic. For some reason I’m struggling to think of other standouts.
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Emperor is in the category of black metal bands I never got. Static with a drum beat and someone shrieking over it. People go all crazy for Ihsahn. It just isn't in my wheelhouse.
What I liked about the bands I mentioned were the classical aspects. Avant garde doesn't do it for me.
 
#50,945
I'm in the same boat as @socialleper, don't mind listening to it but just not my bag. I listened to a bit of graveworm back in the day, dug their cover of REM, but they're not black metal are they?

To be honest besides the early swedish stuff I don't truly know the difference between black and death metal...
 
#50,946
I don't go much for ambient, post-whatever, or symphonic when I listen to black metal. My usual mainstays are:

Darkthrone [their whole catalog, which I guess means I'm not trve kvlt. Whatever]

1349

Immortal

Watain

Taake [and no, the guy is not NSBM]

I'll jump into other BM stuff if I get into a binge. But these are my go-tos.

Ps: the new Mayhem is terrific
 
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Ironically, a lot of black metal is purposefully designed to be repellant to many. It’s their odd way of proving how “kvlt” they are - you know, because nobody listens to them (because few can stomach it!). In all fairness, Black Metal was the last of the metal genres I got into and from the same reasons you mentioned. But as with any genre, once I got into it, my tastes broadened. For me, it was a lonely time in my life, and the atmosphere of the music was often my own attitude at the time, it made for wondrous background music/noise since much of it was blast beats, shrieks, and static guitars. These days, I enjoy the style for what it is, but totally get why some people can’t stand it. I still have a tough time listening to some albums or bands who purposely make it such low quality that it’s tough to make anything out. But overall, I like most of the distinct sounds in black metal ranging from minimalist nature type stuff to pure speed and blast beats, to the orchestral arrangements, and to the experimental stuff. It’s all got its place.

Anyway, I treat my musical experiences rather scientifically. The reason why I have been listening to entire genres in alphabetical order has been to expand my knowledge and listen to stuff I haven’t heard before or on albums I rarely listen to, and in context of different bands. I find it really makes the differences and similarities of a style stand out, and makes me appreciate the style more as a whole. I’ve done it with thrash already, now black metal. Unsure what my next one will be. But I like to push my musical tastes and purposefully try new genres/bands that I have not liked in the past. Usually, after a few years, I find that I can at least appreciate most stuff, even if it’s not my favorite.
 
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br1qbat said:
I don't go much for ambient, post-whatever, or symphonic when I listen to black metal. My usual mainstays are:

Darkthrone [their whole catalog, which I guess means I'm not trve kvlt. Whatever]

1349

Immortal

Watain

Taake [and no, the guy is not NSBM]

I'll jump into other BM stuff if I get into a binge. But these are my go-tos.

Ps: the new Mayhem is terrific
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Watain has been a standout of my playlist so far. I need to listen to more 1349. They’re not on my iPod, but I have their stuff. I love most Immortal. If I had to pick my favorite, though, I think I lean towards Dissection (or their clone, Thulcandra). Not a lot of material, but it’s all fantastic.
 
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^hahahaha good one! You can really save time that way.

I certainly appreciate it for what it is, but I admit I need to listen to more to really make a judgement for myself. I kinda ended my exploration of metal genres at doom and stoner after moving there from thrash and similar genres. I still explore a ton, just not as much on the black/death/symphonic/noise end.
 
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kleinenenten said:
Watain has been a standout of my playlist so far. I need to listen to more 1349. They’re not on my iPod, but I have their stuff. I love most Immortal. If I had to pick my favorite, though, I think I lean towards Dissection (or their clone, Thulcandra). Not a lot of material, but it’s all fantastic.
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The last 2 1349 albums are especially stellar IMO
 
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I tend to like the Cascadian/atmospheric/post-rock/shoegaze strains of black metal. I can get down with some of the more trve kvlt stuff, but not a ton. Stuff like Emperor has never done anything for me. I think Emperor was the first black metal I tried listening to, and it didn't grab me then or now. Agalloch was my doorway into the black metal that I like.

My favorite black metal type stuff is Alda, Panopticon (mostly Kentucky and the next two albums after that), Falls of Rauros, Woman is the Earth, Alcest, Wayfarer...that sort of stuff. One of my favorite albums of 2019 is "Volume One & Two" by Ulvik...that's pretty much exactly what I want from black metal-ish stuff right now. An all-time favorite of mine is the first Ulver album ("Bergtatt..."). Anyone who hasn't heard it should check it out right away...there's some interesting bass playing on it.
 
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Anyone here used or currently using the Mesa/Boogie Buster Bass 200?

I've read through some reviews/discussions on TB. There are mixed reviews about whether or not it can get dirty, but the consensus seems to be that it's a healthy amount of tube power for most applications & can be driven by throwing a boost in front of it. Otherwise, it sounds like it's a fairly clean 200 tube watts if you don't slam the input.

Would love to hear from anyone in here who has taken one for a spin...
 
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lucas303 said:
I tend to like the Cascadian/atmospheric/post-rock/shoegaze strains of black metal. I can get down with some of the more trve kvlt stuff, but not a ton. Stuff like Emperor has never done anything for me. I think Emperor was the first black metal I tried listening to, and it didn't grab me then or now. Agalloch was my doorway into the black metal that I like.

My favorite black metal type stuff is Alda, Panopticon (mostly Kentucky and the next two albums after that), Falls of Rauros, Woman is the Earth, Alcest, Wayfarer...that sort of stuff. One of my favorite albums of 2019 is "Volume One & Two" by Ulvik...that's pretty much exactly what I want from black metal-ish stuff right now. An all-time favorite of mine is the first Ulver album ("Bergtatt..."). Anyone who hasn't heard it should check it out right away...there's some interesting bass playing on it.
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Agalloch is excellent! Also, Falls of Rauros? I always need more Tolkien-inspired metal in my life.
 
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lucas303 said:
I tend to like the Cascadian/atmospheric/post-rock/shoegaze strains of black metal. I can get down with some of the more trve kvlt stuff, but not a ton. Stuff like Emperor has never done anything for me. I think Emperor was the first black metal I tried listening to, and it didn't grab me then or now. Agalloch was my doorway into the black metal that I like.

My favorite black metal type stuff is Alda, Panopticon (mostly Kentucky and the next two albums after that), Falls of Rauros, Woman is the Earth, Alcest, Wayfarer...that sort of stuff. One of my favorite albums of 2019 is "Volume One & Two" by Ulvik...that's pretty much exactly what I want from black metal-ish stuff right now. An all-time favorite of mine is the first Ulver album ("Bergtatt..."). Anyone who hasn't heard it should check it out right away...there's some interesting bass playing on it.
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This is a good list. I'm particular about my black metal too; though you're definitely more into than I am. I kind of like what I like, and I can't really say why. Local boys Wayfarer are among those bands that I really like. I also love a lot of the Enslaved stuff.
 
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Hmmmm what's this suspicious box?

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Wait, where's that banging coming from?

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Aha!

Behold...

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They really did. Picked this up because it was just too good of a bundle deal to pass up.

I'm only for sure keeping the bifet boost. I already have the 250 and boneshaker, so I'm just gonna flip them. Probably try out the filter and comp, but likely to just post most all of em on Reverb. I liked the phasor, may have to give it another go.

If anyone's interested in any of em let me know, I'll get ya hooked up.
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kleinenenten said:
Agalloch is excellent! Also, Falls of Rauros? I always need more Tolkien-inspired metal in my life.
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The one thing I should say is that if you listen to the most recent Falls album, it's VERY different from their other stuff. Not better or worse, necessarily (that's up to the listener)...but definitely different. I'd personally recommend checking out Believe in No Coming Shore first.

Falls is also insanely good live. Do not miss a chance to check them out if they come to your town.
 

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