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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

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I live two blocks from Trve. I don't drink but I used to hang there with the bandmates every now and then. You are more likely to catch me at VooDoo Doughnuts, hah!
 
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Fast forward to the first In-N-Out opening in Colorado recently and people were waiting more than 8 hours in line for it! It's not THAT good.

Same thing happened when Chik-fil-a's started opening out here a couple of years ago (not sure what took them so long). Being a good ol' boy I definitely got excited about it, but then again, they're not THAT good either. But their fries put In-N-Out's fries to shame.
 
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Carl's Jr. now has the Beyond Meat burger and they do a great job with it. I have been vegan for a long time and it really hits the spot for that greasy fast food burger craving. They also have awesome criss-cut fries.
Educate me. I've heard some meat alternatives take the health route (and often don't taste good) and others are focused more on the sustainability and "meat-like" route. They may not be healthy, but they are more environmentally friendly and taste more "meaty", if that makes sense. Is this true? If so, which path is the Beyond Meat (or any other product) taking? I'd be interested in eating less meat in general, but it's gotta taste good. Plenty of "healthy" alternatives just don't taste right to me.
 
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Educate me. I've heard some meat alternatives take the health route (and often don't taste well) and others are focused more on the sustainability and "meat-like" route. They may not be healthy, but they are more environmentally friendly and taste more "meaty", if that makes sense. Is this true? If so, which path is the Beyond Meat (or any other product) taking? I'd be interested in eating less meat in general, but it's gotta taste good. Plenty of "healthy" alternatives just don't taste right to me.
If I can butt in here, my two cents is you're better served in the long run finding non-meat stuff that you like as-is. IMO none of the fake meat things truly stand up to the real thing. (Even though I don't eat meat anymore, I'm not going to say that it isn't delicious.) This is where exploring foreign cuisines really pays dividends. For instance, if you want an example of non-meat done really well then Indian food is a great example. There's also a lot of amazing non-meat Chinese food (real Chinese food, not Panda Express sort of stuff). Pea tips with garlic? Oh hell yes.
 
If I can butt in here, my two cents is you're better served in the long run finding non-meat stuff that you like as-is. IMO none of the fake meat things truly stand up to the real thing. (Even though I don't eat meat anymore, I'm not going to say that it isn't delicious.) This is where exploring foreign cuisines really pays dividends. For instance, if you want an example of non-meat done really well then Indian food is a great example. There's also a lot of amazing non-meat Chinese food (real Chinese food, not Panda Express sort of stuff). Pea tips with garlic? Oh hell yes.
No, I welcome all points. I've done well reducing my meat consumption in general, and have a small but growing cadre of vegetarian meals that I rather enjoy. But every so often, I just want some meat. I've reduced the amount that I eat dramatically, but much as you describe, I haven't found anything that replaces it. There's plenty of other good stuff, but nothing is meat. If it matters, I'm not really a big beef fan. Typically I'm a chicken or pork eater. Beef is typically reserved for cheap and quick fast food these days, or some other random meals here. Turkey has often replaced beef in many of my recipes at home.
 
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Have you tried Meta Burger? You can get tater tots an a burger, and they have good waffle fries.

I went once a long time ago and had the mock chicken sandwich and it was pretty good. I heard the burgers are the thing to get. I need to go back.

Educate me. I've heard some meat alternatives take the health route (and often don't taste good) and others are focused more on the sustainability and "meat-like" route. They may not be healthy, but they are more environmentally friendly and taste more "meaty", if that makes sense. Is this true? If so, which path is the Beyond Meat (or any other product) taking? I'd be interested in eating less meat in general, but it's gotta taste good. Plenty of "healthy" alternatives just don't taste right to me.

Beyond Meat is a good inbetween, it is made of pea protein and not as junky as some of the others like Boca or Morning Star. The black bean burgers or ones that are more of a veggie based patty are generally healthier and can be really great but are definitely a different thing from a meat taste. You gotta just try some different things to see what you like.

If I can butt in here, my two cents is you're better served in the long run finding non-meat stuff that you like as-is. IMO none of the fake meat things truly stand up to the real thing. (Even though I don't eat meat anymore, I'm not going to say that it isn't delicious.) This is where exploring foreign cuisines really pays dividends. For instance, if you want an example of non-meat done really well then Indian food is a great example. There's also a lot of amazing non-meat Chinese food (real Chinese food, not Panda Express sort of stuff). Pea tips with garlic? Oh hell yes.

I agree with this, my diet consists mostly of Mexican, Thai, and Indian food. I ate a pretty standard American diet when I was young with very little veggies. I would say that my diet is leaps and bounds more diverse and healthy now.
 
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I just need to roast an absurd amount of veggies. I love roasted veggies in my dutch oven, but always make meat as well. Should just go for all veggies one day.

Random tangent - anything named "Morning Star" cracks me up. It's the literal meaning of "Lucifer". There's a church around here named the Morning Star Church or some such, and I always wonder if they even understand the mythos of their own beliefs to understand they've named the church after Satan himself. And if they do, I kind of hope it's a secret cabal of Satanists subverting some poor saps in some odd, wholesome, and yet Satanic way. The possibilities entertain me endlessly.
 
I can't stand coffee regardless of who makes it. I do enjoy Timmies breakfast sandwiches and the tea though. the rest if the menu is garbage.
I have become accustomed to "coffee". By which I mean I throw in an absurd amount of sugar, cream, and milk, so it's the same color as hot chocolate. Also - it's pretty much also always some sort of flavored coffee to make it taste better. I drink coffee out of convenience. But I vastly prefer tea. It's my relaxing drink of choice when I can take some time to actually enjoy it.
 
Im a bodybuilder. I eat a ton of meat. I also try to eat lots of beans, lentils, and peas for protein. someone mention Indian food for non-meat and I agree. Paneer tikka marsala is a favorite of mine. I also get protein from dairy like milk.

Im switching all my protein supplements to plant based when the current ones I have run out. I will still eat a ton of chicken , tuna, and turkey. I am trying to shrink my footprint, but im consuming about 200g of protein a day.
 
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I have become accustomed to "coffee". By which I mean I throw in an absurd amount of sugar, cream, and milk, so it's the same color as hot chocolate. Also - it's pretty much also always some sort of flavored coffee to make it taste better. I drink coffee out of convenience. But I vastly prefer tea. It's my relaxing drink of choice when I can take some time to actually enjoy it.

I drink probably a half gallon of iced tea a day - unsweetened, I live in Texas, which is not technically the south. You'd be a diabetic if you drank enough sweetened iced tea to re-hydrate yourself here. I certainly enjoy it, but it's a drink I pour down, not sip and enjoy. My wife likes hot tea, and I've tried a few cups. It's nice, but I don't go looking for it.

I drink probably 4 cups of coffee a week (in two servings). I do it one of two ways, either straight black, with about 2 tablespoons of grounds per cup. Or, the same thing diluted 50/50 with sweetened condensed milk and served on ice (my tacky version of Vietnamese coffee). I savor every drop, but it's potent stuff. My wife prefers I drink the latter because it means I have nervous energy that compels me to do chores around the house instead of holing up in a room and reading. One time I drank it and started trimming the trees in 100F heat with a hand saw, and my neighbor came out and asked if I was OK. I was honest and said I had just drunk a buttload of coffee, fat and sugar, and had to use it all up.


My experience with vegetarianism worked out poorly because I was a really bad vegetarian. All of a sudden ice cream seems like a viable option for dinner. I gained a lot of weight. These days, I'm doing OK as an omnivore, and trying to limit the meat I eat to being an ingredient in another dish, rather than being the solitary main event in every meal.

Hehehe, but yeah, what's vegetarian will surprise you. Samyang's Buldak Hot Spicy Chicken Ramen? Yep, vegetarian. It's chicken flavored, but there's no chicken in it. It's more of a dare than health food. I still eat it about as often as I drink coffee.

And, some coffee-flavored metal I'm sure we all know:

 
Im a bodybuilder. I eat a ton of meat. I also try to eat lots of beans, lentils, and peas for protein. someone mention Indian food for non-meat and I agree. Paneer tikka marsala is a favorite of mine. I also get protein from dairy like milk.

Im switching all my protein supplements to plant based when the current ones I have run out. I will still eat a ton of chicken , tuna, and turkey. I am trying to shrink my footprint, but im consuming about 200g of protein a day.
Cottage cheese before bed is great for helping to build muscle IMO (though I don't eat cheese anymore). The casein protein in it is the key.
 
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