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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Listening to Harris made me realize just how well that bass stands out in the band mix…Some things I read (mostly older conversations on TB initially lead me to believe that a Jazz or a soap bar style bass sounded “better” in a Metal band, but I realized this is not my personal conclusion at all…

Hehehe. I spent ages actually loathing the sound of the Precision's split humbucker. It just sounded bleah to me. Even with rounds, I couldn't get it to sing like I could on the basses I owned that I actually liked (a lawsuit Jazz, an Ibanez Roadstar II with soap bars that had the active electronics removed, and a Danelectro Longhorn were my favorites). On top of that, I also hated the string spacing and the neck shape of the Precisions I had the opportunity to play. Even if I liked the sound, it was a labor to get to it.

But I was playing on mostly low-gain amps around then, with similarly subdued tones. I had an EB-0 with the mudbucker for awhile, and I loved it through my Super-Fuzz no matter what it was strung with, but most anything else wasn't as pleasing. It and other basses were aggressive enough, but still not as satisfying as it could be.

In the last decade or so, I started driving my amps hard even when I wanted clean (you can usually just play softly to clean it up), and I ran into the Precisions that I love. If it's an E-series serial number precision from the MIJ 80's production run, I'm liable to buy it. Their necks feel wonderful to me, the original pickups are generally verging on microphonic, but the feel and the tone are exactly what I'm looking for. I can string one with flats, or I can kill the roundwounds with Chapstick, but I can get it to the place where I love it whether the tone is clean or fuzzed out.

So, in this day and age. I have (does a quick mental count) I think 9 instruments that could be called basses. 5 of them have that split P humbucker as part of their setup. If it has that pickup, I'm using mostly it, and adding the other in for flavor. My formula for those instruments is to either string them with flats, or kill the rounds they're currently strung with through the judicious application of a waxy substance (Chapstick is just easy to find, soft, and has a pleasant aroma). The flats are actually slightly brighter than the rounds get to be once I have my way with them with the application of wax. That buzz is still there when you move your hand without lifting your fingers on the rounds, though. So you do still have to be mindful of technique, if you are lazy and don't want to re-string them. I do play with a heavy hand, and will probably eventually break a string. When that happens, I'll probably re-string any of them with flats, even the basses without that pickup. I've decided that a good set of flats have the tone I want for everything, and if it doesn't, a preamp sure does.

So, I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb, when it comes to the P-bass and its split humbucker. Fender has an array of neck profiles that rivals Gibson, though. And that's saying something. So yeah, it's the neck that makes me hate or love something with a Precision style pickup.
 
Hi all,
I had a new amp arrive a few weeks back (Matamp GT150) and now having two heads am going to try a two amp set up (wet/dry). Is anyone still doing this around here?

My other thought was to invest in a micro pog or similar to see what an octave up does into a second amp.

All for fun and experimentation at the moment and part of me really wants to try and incorporate a Tyler into my set up to see how that sounds.

Anyway, that's where I am on my rig journey. Just interested if it's being used lately, as things like the helix etc almost negate the need but I'm sticking old school with valve at the mo.

I'll be using the same cabs and Di post power section to FOH. ✌️

I've been intrigued by the Tyler for a while now. Didn't they recently come out with a new version, or am I making things up? Anyway, report back with your findings!

Yeah same about the Tyler. They do have a new version out slightly enhanced. I'm on dialogue with gigrig about how to integrate it into my set up as it's not straight forward. Will try the clean dirty thing to start then maybe go from there. Will report back with any perceived benefits ✌️

What for is “Tyler”?

I'm standing rather at the beginning of my Stoner journey, and I have little hands-on experience with massive distortion. So I can't weigh in on this.
You have a bass and rig, yeah? And some sort of dirt, yeah? Crank and ye shall receive.
 
What for is “Tyler”?


You have a bass and rig, yeah? And some sort of dirt, yeah? Crank and ye shall receive.

It's a frequency spitter pedal with variable crossover, two loops and a blend option. Few other bells and whistles on the latest incarnation. Essentially allows you to put as much filth and distortion on our signal whilst retaining a clean low end to retain the lows.
It's a different way, arguably more sophisticated, than a standard full range signal blend and allows true bi-amping as I understand it at least. Finally, you can throw any other effects in there to build whatever ambient textures may be hiding.

Here's a link:
KMA Machines > Tyler Deluxe
 
I have not been using my pedalboard because my Bergantino B|amp has built-in tuner/compressor/distortion. Makes setup quick and easy. Plus, Taurus pedals on the floor already take up a bunch of space. That being said, I sold off a bunch of pedals I was not using (still have a Source Audio Nemesis Delay and Boss SY-1 Synth if anyone is interested - message me you are in this thread and I'll discount). However, just rebuilt the board that will allow me to use backline if that pops up or just for a change of pace if using my Mesa head. Modified Pedaltrain board from years ago with a T-Rex power supply and X2 wireless system mounted underneath. Pedal chain is Korg Tuner > EBS MultiComp > Darkglass B3K > Electro Harmonix Green Russian Big Muff > Alexander F.13 Flanger. Room for one more. May add another fuzz for variations. Not sure. Have my eye on a Way Huge Pork and Pickle or Greer Gorilla Warfare.

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PREACH. Am I actually not alone in loving the sound of flats with massive distortion?
What tuning are you aiming for? The Harris strings would kill my MiM's neck (maple) in E-Standard. C-Standard would be fine.
I'd recommend you using Chromes in E. They are flats with enough highs that you'd need for emulating Steve's sound.
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I plan tune to E standard…

Currently playing .110 gauge strings on another bass that’s a (non Fender) jazz neck that’s tuned to E so I would’ve assumed that the P could handle his signature strings since his signature model comes with those strings…

New bass is a MIM with a Paul Ferro board…

And to clarify-I’m Not necessarily trying to sound “exactly” like him, just looking to get something fierce sounding…

Thanks! \m/
 
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I plan tune to E standard…

Currently playing .110 gauge strings on another bass that’s a (non Fender) jazz neck that’s tuned to E so I would’ve assumed that the P could handle his signature strings since his signature model comes with those strings…

New bass is a MIM with a Paul Ferro board…

And to clarify-I’m Not necessarily trying to sound “exactly” like him, just looking to get something fierce sounding…

Thanks! \m/

The Chromes are a good suggestion IMO.
 
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Welcome back…

…And I may have just come back from a VERY nice vacation shelf, however I can’t say that I’m not at least a LITTLE bit jealous that you got to spend four days in Adult Disneyland even if it was for work…

Hopefully you got at least a little bit of time to walk The Strip and people watch (I’ve been going to Vegas off and on since 1994 and that never gets old IMO)…

Changing jobs probably means I won’t get to go back to Sin City for quite a while which is kind of a pity bc I’d like some more Ink (have managed to get tattooed every time I’ve gone since 2016)… :-(

At least it feels like I’m inching a bit closer on getting my Wife to at least consider eventually relocating there…

Probably still a long way to go on that one, but a guy can dream…

Thanks! \m/
I am the worst Las Vegas guy in the world. Only drink a little, never gamble. I do like the food, though.
 
Welp, after a LOT of consideration and holding out…I finally did it (caved maybe a better word)

Fender MIM P bass ordered today…

Will hopefully get it sometime towards the middle to end of next week…

Also ordered some strings and pickups and new pick guard for it because I’ve got plans for that bass…

Lol-Sadly talking about plans just made my mind go straight to this:



…And before anyone asks-Nope, my mind has not worked linearly in quite a while which is why I have a bad tendency to make random pop culture associations and asides that often have little or nothing to do with the subject at hand…

On that subject-I’m pretty sure that my brain at this point in my life is mostly song lyrics, band personnel, Simpsons quotes, and Futurama quotes…In fact, it’s probably at least 40% Futurama quotes at this point…

ANYWAY…(Pardon the digression and the random Dark Knight references)…

Yeah, we’ll see how that bass works out, but zero buyer’s remorse after hitting the send button on that one…

Think my enthusiasm might have freaked out my spouse just a bit, but that’s always a win in my book if it did…

Thanks! \m/

My wife and I will do the random Zoidberg claws extended "Whooop whoop whoop" sideways escape move. So I feel you on the Futurama.
 
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So, I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb, when it comes to the P-bass and its split humbucker. Fender has an array of neck profiles that rivals Gibson, though. And that's saying something. So yeah, it's the neck that makes me hate or love something with a Precision style pickup.
Dr. Strangelove quote for the bonus points!!
 
So, out of the blue, I get a text from a guy I used to work with years ago. He's now playing guitar and singing in a full-on dad band and wanted to know if I'd like to join. I'm not doing anything but sitting in my basement making noises on the bass, so I told him sure. Not a heavy song to be seen in the practice list, but, what the heck, it's a project. So, I'm going to have to learn some yacht rock tunes. And these guys are a good bit better than me, so I'll have to offer the only thing I can: a good hang.
 
So, out of the blue, I get a text from a guy I used to work with years ago. He's now playing guitar and singing in a full-on dad band and wanted to know if I'd like to join. I'm not doing anything but sitting in my basement making noises on the bass, so I told him sure. Not a heavy song to be seen in the practice list, but, what the heck, it's a project. So, I'm going to have to learn some yacht rock tunes. And these guys are a good bit better than me, so I'll have to offer the only thing I can: a good hang.
Good luck!

I will contend I am a worse Las Vegas person. I don't drink much, but I do gamble. And I know to stop when I'm up! I go with a set amount of cash (typically $20-40) and my rule is that I either lose it or double it, but that's when I stop. I went to Vegas for the first time recently, and when I doubled my money, I quit. The wife protested, but ages ago we'd go to the local casino occasionally to kill time, and I kept track of our winnings. She lost about $200 total over the course of the few years (so not much at all, considering the time frame), but I was up about $300. Not that I won every time, but overall, when I made some cash, I stopped! Casinos probably don't like me, but thankfully for them, there are many who don't stop and lose plenty.