Ken mode was rocking the two basses for a song, sumac take note. Saw ken mode the other night, was a great show.
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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
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Let's face it, the Steinberger L1 was the most doom bass of all. Solid graphite to withstand bashing people who desperately need a melon-caving, AND the ability to be driven through a torso like a spear. AND probably stay in tune. The hat-trick of bass weaponry.
Late on it, but all that needs to be known about headless basses: Yes
Same, glad I kept mine. I think it's phenomenal as a preamp, and I've found I could get the SVT grind with it without having anything ampeg in my chain.
What did push me to let the Gunslinger go when I was funding a pedal spree was that I could get super close to the sounds I loved on it with the boneshaker. I don't use it much, but I know it's going to be an invaluable recording tool. The EQ is tough compared to other parametric ones I've used, but after getting used to it I became a great fan of using it end of chain like an amp or preamp.
By chance do you have em elevated? I know that can make a huge difference, though as always power is a must too.
My experience: for gigs I would put my guitar amp (15w vox) on top of my bass rig at head level almost. I only had the volume up maybe halfway and most every sound guy said he'd mic up the Vox, but wouldn't put any of it in the PA since it was already plenty loud and fit in the foh mix no prob.
Same, glad I kept mine. I think it's phenomenal as a preamp, and I've found I could get the SVT grind with it without having anything ampeg in my chain.
What did push me to let the Gunslinger go when I was funding a pedal spree was that I could get super close to the sounds I loved on it with the boneshaker. I don't use it much, but I know it's going to be an invaluable recording tool. The EQ is tough compared to other parametric ones I've used, but after getting used to it I became a great fan of using it end of chain like an amp or preamp.
By chance do you have em elevated? I know that can make a huge difference, though as always power is a must too.
My experience: for gigs I would put my guitar amp (15w vox) on top of my bass rig at head level almost. I only had the volume up maybe halfway and most every sound guy said he'd mic up the Vox, but wouldn't put any of it in the PA since it was already plenty loud and fit in the foh mix no prob.
Ken Mode is a favorite of mine. Pretty bummed they aren't coming anywhere near Colorado. Maybe they'll come back when the ballot prop on psychedelics has officially passed...
We saw Russian Circles and Rezn last night. Great show, and Rezn was new to us.
Dead Meadow is coming to Austin Sunday and announced it yesterday. I'm about to change up my whole weekend
Well. I blew a speaker in my 1960a Cab. I think when moving my board to the gig last week, I must've hit the high-pass filter knob. Sounded great at the gig. Plugged in the other day for practice.... and yeah, I had killed it during the gig... Don't really have the scratch laying around to fix it right now. Played thru my ol behemoth Peavey cab for practice. Not as clear and way more mid forward. Guess I'll be lugging it to Grand Rapids next week for our gig out there.
I guess lesson learned. Any other tips for protecting speakers? I never run the bass knob above 1-2 on the 'guitar' side and usually have the high pass set correctly.
I guess lesson learned. Any other tips for protecting speakers? I never run the bass knob above 1-2 on the 'guitar' side and usually have the high pass set correctly.
I got into them only a couple years back from the split w kwc. I wanted to pick up loved on vinyl but it was sold out at the show so I grabbed success and a hoodie. Great great stuff; null is pretty much perfect.
Barely been able to play the last week or so, but got a few minutes in today. Still loving the MBD-1, and ordered a 2, so should be A/B'ing them sometime this week I hope. It may actually pare down my board a bit, as I seem to prefer it to both my Pork Loin AND B7KU clone. So there's that. And I may need to seriously start thinking of downsizing my pedal hoard. (You know, to feed more pedal acquisition...)
I recently read that the Pork & Pickle can do 18v - anybody know if the regular Pork Loin can do that?
I recently read that the Pork & Pickle can do 18v - anybody know if the regular Pork Loin can do that?
That's brutal, I've lucked out, but been too close more than I'd wanna admit. I also make sure to use an hpf of some sort when using an octave down and anything more than subtle dirt. When you hit any of those extra deep resonant notes or you hit too hard, it can toast a speaker quick.
I also make sure my pickups aren't too close to the strings. I hit hard and too hard really and have touched a string or two on pickup magnets before.
Outside of that I keep am eye out on my pedals before doing a sound check.
I was listening to the SBL Podcast and Ian Allison was saying that he balances all of his effects before a gig by playing into something with an SPL meter like a DAW or a mixer because the perceived volume of an effect can be very different than what it's actually pumping. I thought it is a great idea. That said, if you are hitting a guitar cab with bass notes, would it help to use a graphic eq before the guitar section cutting everything below 100 hz? and/or a limiter or compressor or something like that?
In personal news, the bill Suicide Cages played last night sold-out the club. It was a three band effort, but still rad. In a weird twist, I was the only bassist that played. Berated, the opener, is a drums, vox, guitar grindcore 3-piece where the guitar runs a stereo rig, and the headliner, Church Fire, is an electronic 3-piece with drums, electronics, and vox.
Jamz with the groovy band continue, but I'm not sure the drummer is the guy. He has some great ideas, but he switches up his grooves and looses the pocket. I'm not sure how much I want to try to give the dude feedback vs cutting my losses and looking for someone else.
In personal news, the bill Suicide Cages played last night sold-out the club. It was a three band effort, but still rad. In a weird twist, I was the only bassist that played. Berated, the opener, is a drums, vox, guitar grindcore 3-piece where the guitar runs a stereo rig, and the headliner, Church Fire, is an electronic 3-piece with drums, electronics, and vox.
Jamz with the groovy band continue, but I'm not sure the drummer is the guy. He has some great ideas, but he switches up his grooves and looses the pocket. I'm not sure how much I want to try to give the dude feedback vs cutting my losses and looking for someone else.
I balanced my effects in my DAW before I sent them out. Bass into a guitar cab isn't usually good because the speakers aren't setup to handle the bass frequencies. I'm sure if you cut them before they got to the speaker it should be fine.
I've been running my bass through an ABY to a bass combo and a tube guitar amp into an open back 1x15. I haven't had any issues but I run the bass on the guitar amp all the way down and it's a 150watt rated speaker with only a 50 watt amp.
Yeah I used to do it all the time with a 15w Vox tube amp. Only 1 song in the set, but did that for a couple years no problem. Now YMMV for sure but it was heavily distorted and likely lost some low end. It used a 12in celestion greenback I think and it was rated for 25w I think.
Here's the track, if I'm doing it right. The bass you hear once the wah cuts off is the mix between the guitar amp (dirty ragged sound) and the cleanish bass sound. The wah sound is going through both too. Looking back I realize I'm only playing on the D and G string during those parts so it's not that low really. Even though I'm pummeling the amp with an Acapulco gold (which cuts a little bit of lows). The fact I'm not going too low probably keeps it from wrecking the speaker to some extent I imagine.
Here's the track, if I'm doing it right. The bass you hear once the wah cuts off is the mix between the guitar amp (dirty ragged sound) and the cleanish bass sound. The wah sound is going through both too. Looking back I realize I'm only playing on the D and G string during those parts so it's not that low really. Even though I'm pummeling the amp with an Acapulco gold (which cuts a little bit of lows). The fact I'm not going too low probably keeps it from wrecking the speaker to some extent I imagine.
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A graphic or parametric could work, if’n the roll off is steep enough and deep enough.
HPF is made for this : High Pass Filter let’s everything higher than the the frequency it’s set/designed to pass and rolls off the frequencies below said frequency. Or a crossover, which is a HPF and LPF acting in tandem.
Edit: tired, fat fingers
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Thanks! Been meaning to sit down and over dub the vocals for it and the rest of the songs that we wrote lyrics for. On the fence since we did nothing edit wise besides mixing and mastering. We wanted to keep it 100% raw like the live experience, that and I'm a little lazy, lol.
We mise well just record the studio version, and the 2nd album's worth of material we have (possibly even a 3rd's worth of songs). Personally, we'd probably do it mostly live given how we perform as a group feeding off each other.
Morning, all. Nothing new on the bass front, noodling away the evenings in the basement. Wish I had more, but do not.
