Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

[The_Janitor]

Hey Max, how bout that serial killer in West Allis? Think we got another Dahmer going on?

 

[Niff]

so i did some pedaltrain 2 planning for my new rig. turns out most of my pedals aren't on pedalboard planner so it ended up looking like this.. lol.

ric-o-sound via y cable -> rick o sound mute box with tuner out (into korg pitchblack) -> stereo volume pedal

split as per below..

neck pickup -> Boss CS-2 -> "Doom DI" (into PA) -> bluebeard -> hotcake -> Boss RE-20 channel A -> custom preamp based on Matamp GT200 (with mid shift mod like Sam's head) -> 200w tube slave -> Sunn 200S 215
bridge pickup -> VFE Mini-Mu -> DS1 -> DOD 250 -> Boss RE-20 channel B -> custom preamp based on OR120 -> 100w tube slave -> clone of a Matamp 412

i'll be able to power each side separately with a CIOKS ADAM power supply, two daisy chains, and two isolated outlets for the DI and the RE-20.

currently waiting on the preamp build, the PT-2 itself, the doom DI and a good deal on the RE-20.

yikes.

 

[bassboysam]

The prices for new vinyl have gotten stupidly high. Remember when a new pressing of vinyl was the price, if not cheaper than the CD?

I collect vinyl but it's mostly classic rock, classic country, metal and obscure heavy and psych stuff from the sixties and seventies. I'll rarely pay more than ten bucks for a record. As much as I'd like to buy current vinyl, it's hard to justify the cost.

There are a lot fewer pressing plants these days and a lot less vinyl being pressed than the 60s, 70s and 80s so the cost of production has gone up.

 

[bassboysam]

Good, grounded, normal, you can only choose two for a "lead singer".

This is why I started doing vocals. Even though I am never happy with how I sound. Also, this:

sounds great Joe!

 

[D.M.N.]

Guys.... Can we back up a few months and talk about how good this is again?

Um, hell yes? It's never a bad idea to talk about how goddamned good Robin Trower is.


So I just went to buy my tickets to see Wolfmother next month, and it turns out that Electric Citizen is joining the tour, so I'me F*CKING STOKED. Talk about added bonus. I also just bought my ticket to see Sleep in Boston, anyone else going to be there?

In other news, getting fidgety everyday the Parachute gets closer to arriving.

 

[The_Janitor]

There are a lot fewer pressing plants these days and a lot less vinyl being pressed than the 60s, 70s and 80s so the cost of production has gone up.

Yeah, i realize this, I'm just complaining. I could probably stand to bring it down a notch.

Joe - i really dig the song and the video!

Mini vacation has begun, I'll be heading to my buddy's cabin in the UP tomorrow morning for four days of hiking, kayaking, swimming, smoking and drinking.

 

[Korladis]

Would love to get my group on the list with any of you guys playing in the bay area...

Sure, as long as you stop calling it "Frisco." That's a town in Texas.

The prices for new vinyl have gotten stupidly high. Remember when a new pressing of vinyl was the price, if not cheaper than the CD?

I collect vinyl but it's mostly classic rock, classic country, metal and obscure heavy and psych stuff from the sixties and seventies. I'll rarely pay more than ten bucks for a record. As much as I'd like to buy current vinyl, it's hard to justify the cost.

Eh, I'm used to it being a bit more expensive than the CDs. My band's is $16 right now for preorder, but will go up a bit.

so i did some pedaltrain 2 planning for my new rig. turns out most of my pedals aren't on pedalboard planner so it ended up looking like this.. lol.

ric-o-sound via y cable -> rick o sound mute box with tuner out (into korg pitchblack) -> stereo volume pedal

split as per below..

neck pickup -> Boss CS-2 -> "Doom DI" (into PA) -> bluebeard -> hotcake -> Boss RE-20 channel A -> custom preamp based on Matamp GT200 (with mid shift mod like Sam's head) -> 200w tube slave -> Sunn 200S 215
bridge pickup -> VFE Mini-Mu -> DS1 -> DOD 250 -> Boss RE-20 channel B -> custom preamp based on OR120 -> 100w tube slave -> clone of a Matamp 412

i'll be able to power each side separately with a CIOKS ADAM power supply, two daisy chains, and two isolated outlets for the DI and the RE-20.

currently waiting on the preamp build, the PT-2 itself, the doom DI and a good deal on the RE-20.

yikes.

Nice.

What is this pedalboard planner thing?

 

[Blank_0101]

Sure, as long as you stop calling it "Frisco." That's a town in Texas.

Yea it is, about 30 min away from me.

 

[LowF]

If you go back and listen to earlier bongripper records vs our latest material it's like a night and day difference. I mean we've always done heavy, but the means as to which we write songs have progressed and changed a lot over the years. I played my wife a song off Hippie Killer and she didn't believe that it was my band (Charlie, Burt Reynolds has got **** on you).

I like the way you guys have grown and changed. Although I do have to say that I enjoy SWD and the live recording the most. The new album (at least the first track) sounds great.

 

[mc_muench]

so i did some pedaltrain 2 planning for my new rig. turns out most of my pedals aren't on pedalboard planner so it ended up looking like this.. lol.

ric-o-sound via y cable -> rick o sound mute box with tuner out (into korg pitchblack) -> stereo volume pedal

split as per below..

neck pickup -> Boss CS-2 -> "Doom DI" (into PA) -> bluebeard -> hotcake -> Boss RE-20 channel A -> custom preamp based on Matamp GT200 (with mid shift mod like Sam's head) -> 200w tube slave -> Sunn 200S 215
bridge pickup -> VFE Mini-Mu -> DS1 -> DOD 250 -> Boss RE-20 channel B -> custom preamp based on OR120 -> 100w tube slave -> clone of a Matamp 412

i'll be able to power each side separately with a CIOKS ADAM power supply, two daisy chains, and two isolated outlets for the DI and the RE-20.

currently waiting on the preamp build, the PT-2 itself, the doom DI and a good deal on the RE-20.

yikes.

Sounds like a great plan Stan. That rig sounds like its gonna be killer. Is Dunwich gonna be building the DI and the preamps?


My board as of now, and actually I can really see it being my basic board for awhile.

Coily cord > the good old TU2 > ABY, A goes straight into the Vulcan > 218+210 and B > Bear amps Lucifuzz > Dunwich preamp/DI > Festival slave > EVM 215. To the right of the suitcase is the footswitch for the Vulcan.

That Bear amps Lucifuzz is new, got it a day before DOTD. Made by the same guy that fixed my Vulcan. The pedal was a result of him fixing the amp. He liked the fuzz enough that he put it in a pedal and tweaked it a bit more. Its got a "blue" bassier setting in which the toggle switch chooses bassy or dubby, and a "red" setting which is a mid boost, good for more lead playing.

I want to make another small board of cool noisemakers to put in the Dunwiches efx loop. That will have a dimed Big box Rat, MIJ BOSS Flanger, EHX Freeze, and whatever else tickles my fancy.

 

[deathsdj]

Boss OC-2 used in my local GC. Any of you like it?

 

[Ron Now]

Great for single note sub notes. If you solo the Oct 1 (no clean or Oct 2) it sounds like a cool analog synth bass.

Never got much band use out of octave down pedals, but they are fun.

 

[dcarwin]

Sure, as long as you stop calling it "Frisco." That's a town in Texas.

Yeah, yeah....which is named after the original.

 

[El Raro]

There are a lot fewer pressing plants these days and a lot less vinyl being pressed than the 60s, 70s and 80s so the cost of production has gone up.

I'd wager that the increase in price also has a lot to do with the resurgence in popularity of vinyl. Labels, independents and even bands are cashing in on the rise in popularity and taking advantage of the fact morons like me would willingly pay $40 a pop for a wax disc

 

[kzr750r1]

Ha Ha... Found the ATK in the classifieds. Lest see how much to ship it cross country.

 

[Korladis]

Yeah, yeah....which is named after the original.

Sure. But the term is a poopy slang Angelino term for the city.

You seem to think I'm kidding. I'm really not.

 

[bassboysam]

I'd wager that the increase in price also has a lot to do with the resurgence in popularity of vinyl. Labels, independents and even bands are cashing in on the rise in popularity and taking advantage of the fact morons like me would willingly pay $40 a pop for a wax disc

I think it depends on the band. As a not well known independent band we found extremely hard to sell vinyl even at $20 a pop. We resorted to selling vinyl at below cost and we make up the difference with digital sales (although people are paying less and not as often for digital) and from money we get for playing live shows. Even our latest record we're selling at a loss. It sucks but we'd rather get our music out there. In about 2 years (hopefully sooner this time) we'll break-even and record another

It's nice because a couple of distros from Europe contacted us. Originally they wanted to do a consignment deal but once we told them what our wholesale prices were they just bought the records up front. Hopefully taking a bit off a loss pays off in the end. We'd rather increase the number of record sales than increase the amount we make from sales.

 

[CL400Peavey]

Gig went well last night. Ended up bringing my F212 and tube amp in favor of my B1500 and '66.

 

[LowF]

Boss OC-2 used in my local GC. Any of you like it?

A chart I found on line. Just to let you know, most of the human race can hear between 20Hz and 20KHz. Ron's right of the edge with his f# but I think the sheer volume and colouring of the notes that low, allow the audience to collectively poop their pants. Whether or not we can hear something an octave (or 2) lower than normal, you have to assume some of the audience won't hear it and how many of us have the cabs that can reproduce those notes. My 4x10 is better suited to the low A or G range but I can get a fairly clear f# when I overdrive (subtly) the note (which is the usual setting). Sometimes a chart can make it clearer in the mind. SO to answer the original query. I don't see a need for an octave pedal where I sonically play, but as a poop inducing effect, why not.

Note 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
C 16 33 65 131 262 523 1047 2093 4186 8372 16744
C# 17 35 69 139 277 554 1109 2217 4435 8870 17740
D 18 37 73 147 294 587 1175 2349 4699 9397 18794
D# 19 39 78 156 311 622 1245 2489 4978 9956 19912
E 21 41 82 165 330 659 1319 2637 5274 10548 21096
F 22 44 87 175 349 698 1397 2794 5588 11175 22351
F# 23 46 93 185 370 740 1480 2960 5920 11840 23680
G 25 49 98 196 392 784 1568 3136 6272 12544 25088
G# 26 52 104 208 415 831 1661 3322 6645 13229 26580
A 28 55 110 220 440 880 1760 3520 7040 14080 28159
A# 29 58 117 233 466 932 1864 3729 7459 14917 29832
B 31 62 123 247 493 988 1976 3951 7902 15804 31604

(sorry, the chart didn't keep it's original chart-like appearance.)

 

[mbelue]

Sure. But the term is a ****** slang Angelino term for the city.

You seem to think I'm kidding. I'm really not.

So, uh what do you call it? When you don't want to use 4 syllables.