Of course it'll happen again. As long as there's an "us" group and "them" group we'll be happy to pointlessly murder each other. Question is, will we prevent it when we can? If there's a profit involved I bet not.
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The holocaust..
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Israel's record concerning the Palistinians is well known and not a pretty picture no matter how it's spun. Oppression and occupation aren't the path away from possible future horrors.
Hitler and Stalin were cut from the same cloth. Each murdered millions. Interesting period of history for sure.
So interesting that you dont even try to prove your statement is correct by adding some facts to your post...
As already mentioned, it can happen again, maybe not on this extreme scale (there's other genocides that entailed more dead though) and in this mechanical, industrialized, highly organized and worldview-driven way....that's unlikely to happen IMO.
But it happens as we speak....and even if it's done on a smaller scale, doesn't make it less insane.
But it happens as we speak....and even if it's done on a smaller scale, doesn't make it less insane.
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I'm no social scientist, but I think that even the most open and democratic societies on earth probably have at least some significant minority of members who would favor authoritarian/totalitarian government or other institutional structures that would persecute and strike down others that they despise.
One million people killed in 100 days in Rwanda. Surprisingly now the most stable country in Africa with both ethnic groups living among each other.
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Not so fast.
It happened in Rwanda in 1994. Estimates are at least 500,000 (up to 800,000 to 1,000,000) ethnic Tutsis at the hands (and machetes) of the Hutus.
There was a genocide in Cambodia in the mid/late 70's - not an ethnic one but a political one mainly against anyone educated and/or well-off (and many who weren't).
It will probably happen again though probably not in the US, W. Europe and other places where hate isn't taught.
It happened in Rwanda in 1994. Estimates are at least 500,000 (up to 800,000 to 1,000,000) ethnic Tutsis at the hands (and machetes) of the Hutus.
There was a genocide in Cambodia in the mid/late 70's - not an ethnic one but a political one mainly against anyone educated and/or well-off (and many who weren't).
It will probably happen again though probably not in the US, W. Europe and other places where hate isn't taught.
In Cambodia, in four years, they killed 1.4 million to 2.2 million people. And that was in a country with a population of 7 million. That's about 20-30% of the population. I would say, for the sheer horror, it's about on par with the holocaust.
Will we ever see the chillingly organized and calculated mass murder of the holocaust again? Hard to say. There have been several genocides since, but none have been organized with such brutal precision as the Nazis' slaughter of Jews, gays, gypsies and other "undesirables."
Theres the Rwandan genocide and Saddam's extermination of the Kurds. I have a feeling that its going to happen in Palestine next. Many actually feel that it is happening right now.
Forgive my ignorance to the situation, but can you elaborate on the Palestine situation?
Ahhh, the mighty straw man argument rears its head. What, may I ask, are my alleged assertions concerning Israel's policies?
Someone can feel anything they like but that doesn't make it so.
Palestine has not, is not and I highly doubt it will ever will be a genocide.
The Israel/Palestine situation is a very bad one but certainly not a genocide.
Peace.
Palestine has not, is not and I highly doubt it will ever will be a genocide.
The Israel/Palestine situation is a very bad one but certainly not a genocide.
Peace.
A little reading informs me that Palestine was under colonization from Jews from the 1880's to the 1940's due to the Jews being subject to pogroms and systematic genocide. During the holocaust, most European countries were turning away fleeing Jews. Settling in Palestine was one of the very few viable options. This is not an opinion, but rather historical fact, and it's critical to understanding the current state of Israel.
The OP asks if the holocaust could happen again. The answer is yes, and it can easily happen right in Israel with millions of Jews being exterminated. Israel is a country 263 miles long and only about 100 miles wide on average and its nearly 6 million Jews comprise about 3/4 of the population with the rest being mostly Arab citizens.
This is a a very tiny country surrounded by numerous, vast countries of hundreds of millions of people who mostly hate them for religious reasons and many of them would be overjoyed to see the Jews at least removed from their continent and quite an alarming number who would prefer they be exterminated once and for all. Some of the neighboring countries even have these goals as official state policy.
IMO, the potential exists for a repeat of the holocaust and the complex set of circumstances that prevents it from happening is in a precarious position.
That is sadly true.
In places like the US, people are overwhelmingly not raised on hate so we're repulsed by the notion of mass hate. Unfortunately, in the process we often fail to acknowledge places where people really are.
When a population is indoctrinated with real hate (political, ethnic, racial or religious), genocide can be instigated.
In places like the US, people are overwhelmingly not raised on hate so we're repulsed by the notion of mass hate. Unfortunately, in the process we often fail to acknowledge places where people really are.
When a population is indoctrinated with real hate (political, ethnic, racial or religious), genocide can be instigated.
Indeed. I thought it only appropriate given the tenor of your comment in post number 10. I'm not certain that a sensitive topic such as this can be handled here without raising the blood pressures of respondents (and moderators), so I'm not going to push it. I do, however, stand by my last sentence regarding reading up.
Could it happen again? We are not likely to see the kind of industrial, clinical, mass extermination - at least not in our lifetime. But genocides will certainly happen time and time again. The future is long, guys
I am hopeful that we will see less ethnic cleansing in the 21. century than in the 20. century, but it is impossible to say.
I am hopeful that we will see less ethnic cleansing in the 21. century than in the 20. century, but it is impossible to say.
