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The time has come! Markbass MegaThread!
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This is what i said a page or two back. Because its an XLR some people might run it as a mic level and its not, its line. I cant see how it would effect the sound though, just the level.
Those who are getting a thin sound, does the low knob make a difference? I know we dont want to start boosting the lows just for this but i was wondering if it changes the tone.
I have recorded at home with mine going in to a small desk, using a XLR/jack adaptor and it sounded very full. Just as full as when i fun my bass directly in to the desk and use the Ampeg software to give me a full rig sound for recording.
Maybe some of the heads have been leaving the factory with the jumper set to pre.
Just thinking out a loud.
Ok, then I'm going to stage a little completely unscientific test...
I'm going to set the DI out on my Eden 405, which I know is a great DI (at least for my taste), to post, and do an A/B test through a third party power amp and see what I hear.
In the factory setting, yes, it would, but like you said, we don't want to consider that a solution, since it would only be useful for recording. In a live situation, cranking lows to satisfy the board would be a bad idea... first, they have eq on the board... use it.... second, that's seriously screw with your stage tone and muddy it up horribly... trying to eq on stage for FOH.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not implying you were suggesting any of this... just adding to what you said, which is correct.
Will mine help?
Dave, yes when you boost the lows then the DI sends more lows. But there are two reasons why this is not enough :
1. Even with lows boosted, the DI _still_ sends overloads of treble, and very few of anything else,
2. As you stated, one should not adapt his tone to the DI. The DI should send the signal straight (either pre or post, depending on the player's choice).
I also did an A/B test on my first gig with the LMII. The engineer at the stage monitors desk was stating we has receiving only highs and nothing else. I heard it through the stage monitors, and I actually believed he had some kind of a low-cut filter on his board. He had not. BTW, the MarkBass was set flat on all tone controls and filters. Then we plugged the XLR cable into the DI output of my Sennheiser UHF, and while changing absolutely nothing else, then the signal had the whole frequency range (well, at least there were lows, mids and highs).
Now I connect to the board by DIing from my UHF and everything is OK, just that I could not, even if wanted, take benefit of some eventual settings on the MB for the PA. The good thing is that we have excellent+ sound engineers, either for PA or for stage monitors management.
I'm hoping to hear what folks are talking about. Mainly out of curiosity.
The only times I've "heard" my DI is out front thru a PA mix, and it sounded fine. If production had to add a bit of low end where they hadn't before, I never heard about it, and frankly, as long as there's not something about the tone that's truly limiting in some way, which I doubt, it's only a matter of curiosity for me.
I was thinking of doing the same with my AKG once i start trusting it. something cut out at my last gig. I suspect it was a lead as the transmitter was still connected to the receiver.
I must admit im surprised that the sound guys let you do this. Every gig i have done with a big PA they have always wanted to take a DI feed directly out of my bass, in case the head goes down during a gig. Its only recently i have been allowed to use my heads DI.
They let me do it because whatever happens, the signal DOES transit thru the UHF. If the UHF fails, then yes I'll need a DI and cables to connect to the amp (on both sides of the DI). Through about 30 gigs with my UHF I never experienced any loss of signal, so I guess I can trust it
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Okay, if this is the case then we're talking about something serious here. I think this must be something that is affecting some of the LMII's and not all - for the guys that have the problem this isn't a subtle issue, and if others had this problem I think we would know. If it's ONLY producing the high frequencies to the point that it sounds like a high pass/low cut filter, it's an unusable DI. We aren't talking about good DI vs. bad DI, we're talking useable DI vs. unusable.
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I totally agree. As it is, my DI is quite unusable. And some others' too, if I understood correctly. Maybe it's time for Peter Murray to give us some light, uh ?
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I do wonder if your particular unit might have a defect. It almost sounds like an impedance mismatch, though I am not sure how that might 'accidentally' happen. Have you had a Markbass service rep take a look at your unit, or tried a second LMII?
Tom.
Funny, I find your post just when I come back from talkin' to my dealer over the phone
He is a big MarkBass seller (even evangelist haha), and he tells me no-one reported him this kind of problem until now. He has just received another Little Mark II and is going to check its DI as soon as tomorrow. If the DI is ok on this one, he will swap it for me instantaneously and give me the good one.
That may also be an inside connection issue, no ?
well ...
i hit GC yesterday , and the sales guy was nice enough
to let me hook my bass up to a couple of MB heads ...
i tried the 501 and the SD800 thru the 410 cabinet .
no real contest for me , the SD800 won hands down ...
they knocked a couple hundred dollars
off the price , and i walked out with the floor model .
they do have a brand new , still in the box
SD800 on order for me , and when it arrives { one week }
they'll just swap this one out for the new one .
i know , no pictures no amp , but i haven't had time yet .
i'll be running this SD800 through my
Bergantino HT310 , or thru my HT115 ,
depending on the gig ...
i lovin' it so far ...
i hit GC yesterday , and the sales guy was nice enough
to let me hook my bass up to a couple of MB heads ...
i tried the 501 and the SD800 thru the 410 cabinet .
no real contest for me , the SD800 won hands down ...
they knocked a couple hundred dollars
off the price , and i walked out with the floor model .
they do have a brand new , still in the box
SD800 on order for me , and when it arrives { one week }
they'll just swap this one out for the new one .
i know , no pictures no amp , but i haven't had time yet .
i'll be running this SD800 through my
Bergantino HT310 , or thru my HT115 ,
depending on the gig ...
i lovin' it so far ...
+1 [and good comeback, BTW
Though I will urge some caution, as some of us (okay, me) have been lambasted here on TB for pretty much making this exact point.
Me too.
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