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Thunderbird Club

Another question about strings: what will be the difference between a round core nickel roundwound and a hex core nickel roundwound of the same gauge, same manufacturer?
Round cores will typically be more flexible and more smooth sounding, bigger and slightly less top end sounding, generally. Hex, will be stiffer and more aggressive. I'm sure there are exceptions, but in my experience this is always the case.
 
Does anybody have one of their T-Bitds tuned D-Standard? If so, what strings are you using and do you like the feel, tone? I’m a finger player and one of my bands is in D-Standard/ Drop C and I’m always looking for the right combo of stiffness and tension to get the right feel w/o a bunch of fret “clack”. So far I have one P-Bass that does it well with DR DDT 55-115. This is right at the edge of the stiffness I can take. But it seems each bass feels a little different as far as string stiffness and/or tension, which is a little puzzling to me. Seems like if I strung all my 34” scale basses with the same strings, in the same tuning, they should all feel the same? One difference in my instruments however is some are string through, so maybe at has an effect?...

I have been playing in D-standard on my Thunderbirds for months, maybe a year? I have EBCFs on them, either 45-105 or 50-105, I can't recall. On the VP they're a smidge floppy feeling and sounding, and if I dig in the strings might hit the neck pickup (raised for maximum Bird Tone). They're better on the CP, but C#-standard would probably be floppy.

One would hope the same strings on various same-scale instruments would feel the same, but it ain't necessarily so. I suspect setup is the key difference, but distance from nut to tuner and saddle to stop may make a difference.
 
Agreed, I've never heard a farting tone from him. Even when he used a distortion it wasn't farty and he had another stack going clean.

Farting tone to me is the Jack Bruce, Mark Clarke, Jeff Berlin and (sometimes) Andy Fraser bridge pickup tone. Not saying it's a bad tone.
it got pretty farty (only real way to get those harmonics to sing), trust me, I was there (went to UM in the early 80’s and knew Jaco personally) but when the only real other alternative (not counting Rocco who was in a similar realm) was Stanley Clarke’s tone, it was a most welcome and original bass tone….
 
I have been playing in D-standard on my Thunderbirds for months, maybe a year? I have EBCFs on them, either 45-105 or 50-105, I can't recall. On the VP they're a smidge floppy feeling and sounding, and if I dig in the strings might hit the neck pickup (raised for maximum Bird Tone). They're better on the CP, but C#-standard would probably be floppy.

One would hope the same strings on various same-scale instruments would feel the same, but it ain't necessarily so. I suspect setup is the key difference, but distance from nut to tuner and saddle to stop may make a difference.
45-105
 
I still can't find a case* or gig bag that'll fit the 67(I do have this "Rockbag"-by Warwick[I think]), but it's short on padding. I'm trying a 'jerry-rigged' solution to it. We'll see how well it functions.

*Not planning on buying the 2021 NR case that keeps coming up online. If I knew it would fit, maybe. For less $.
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send it to me and I'll test it in my cases...

IF it doesn't fit my cases it may not be worthwhile to risk sending it back without a case....
 
One would hope the same strings on various same-scale instruments would feel the same, but it ain't necessarily so. I suspect setup is the key difference, but distance from nut to tuner and saddle to stop may make a difference.

I have always wondered if the distance from saddle to stop and the angle between those would change the feel of the string somehow but it seems when a sting is in tune it will be at that given tension no matter what, and stiffness would be directly related to string construction and gauge.
 
meme Monday!

@Chucky Stiletti

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Does anybody have one of their T-Bitds tuned D-Standard? If so, what strings are you using and do you like the feel, tone? I’m a finger player and one of my bands is in D-Standard/ Drop C and I’m always looking for the right combo of stiffness and tension to get the right feel w/o a bunch of fret “clack”. So far I have one P-Bass that does it well with DR DDT 55-115. This is right at the edge of the stiffness I can take. But it seems each bass feels a little different as far as string stiffness and/or tension, which is a little puzzling to me. Seems like if I strung all my 34” scale basses with the same strings, in the same tuning, they should all feel the same? One difference in my instruments however is some are string through, so maybe at has an effect?

Another question about strings: what will be the difference between a round core nickel roundwound and a hex core nickel roundwound of the same gauge, same manufacturer?
I do have a Thunderbird in D standard. It is wearing RS 66 45-105. Initially, I thought the strings were a bit floppy, however since hand surgery, it is good (and I moved other basses to 40-95). So YMMV.

Round core strings tend to be less stiff than hex core at the same tension.
 
Actually, that might be a good idea. Headstocks that would fold back to the nut with a piano type hinge, then snap back into place for playing. Could use standard size cases/gig bags, and would lessen the tension on the neck while at rest. Hmm. Call Gibson/Epi!

This might not be a serious suggestion.
It is the sort of idea that they would put at a high priority for ignoring.
 
:laugh: I can send him my case to send to you in…
…And I can mail you an empty shipping box for your case so you can safely ship to Willy…:laugh:
Well you both have taken the best paths of showing kindness and helpfulness in a time of need and left not much else the rest of us can do to help. Wait. I know, I'll send Willy some frets.
 

Update: (after seeing that cast again~) Had the (2) stitches out on Monday and met with the surgeon. The incision is healing well and should be fully healed by the end of the month, so still limited use. The Dr said in a year it should be pretty much back to normal. It was the first good news I'd heard - I was starting to feel it was going to stay the same. So change will be incremental and subtle, but just knowing this made my day. In 12 months, even if it's not 100% better, it will be much better than it is now.

Rehearsal tonight - we rehearsed last Thursday and I was able to play - I normally have a light left-hand touch which helps. Zach and Kirstin were feeling much better after their bouts w/Covid and we worked on 3 new songs. Next Tuesday I have a rehearsal with Cherie auditioning a new drummer for Bond Girl.

I'm still getting my midi-keyboard together (ordered cables) and will learn our songs using it over time. Onward and upward! :bassist:
 
Update: (after seeing that cast again~) Had the (2) stitches out on Monday and met with the surgeon. The incision is healing well and should be fully healed by the end of the month, so still limited use. The Dr said in a year it should be pretty much back to normal. It was the first good news I'd heard - I was starting to feel it was going to stay the same. So change will be incremental and subtle, but just knowing this made my day. In 12 months, even if it's not 100% better, it will be much better than it is now.

Rehearsal tonight - we rehearsed last Thursday and I was able to play - I normally have a light left-hand touch which helps. Zach and Kirstin were feeling much better after their bouts w/Covid and we worked on 3 new songs. Next Tuesday I have a rehearsal with Cherie auditioning a new drummer for Bond Girl.

I'm still getting my midi-keyboard together (ordered cables) and will learn our songs using it over time. Onward and upward! :bassist:
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