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Thunderbird Club

All good choices. One thing else I do is to get a lamb shoulder from the butcher and ask them to butterfly it. I used to bring the bone home for the dog (sad face). Then I make a marinade of olive oil, garlic, lemon juice, lemon rind and rosemary (I think that’s all) and marinade it for a good while - a couple of hours. Then on to the BBQ grill and it’s done in half the time the shoulder would be done whole. Carve it up and serve in slices. It is quite a Greek style. Bloody beautiful says this Aussie.
I'm not a cook, nor do I play one on TV, but have you ever tried marinating it over night? Sounds scrumptious btw.
 
I don't think there is one. I have looked out of curiosity. Pelican might make a case that would work once the interior was built. They make cases for long guns that are about the right size. I haven't figured it out once and for all though.
There are a coupla outits that make TSA approved custom cases. ~$400(up).
 
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I've been thinking a lot about my post and your answer and I think the bigger neck just makes me a little more deliberate with my note choice, it's definitely something to do with the sound though too though, I think the deepness of them brings me back because my only bass for pretty much two decades was a P bass even though it had a Jazz neck on it. Maybe it's just a feel thing? I'm just so confused! :laugh:
I rarely get confused. I stay confused.
 
My son in law screwed up the flip. Instead of placing a tray over the pot and doing the flip, he tried to flip the pot onto the tray. That messed up the presentation but it was delicious.
Whenever someone apologizes for 'the presentation', I tell 'em "it's gonna look a lot worse after I eat it".:thumbsup:
 
The old boy is still hanging in there but needs plenty of rest anywhere he wants to take it.
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I had to but some cream on his nose. He can get a little dry taking diuretics.
:) hey Gramps…….naptime…….
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My paternal grandmother made great lamb dishes. Everything was in her head. So we have no idea how she prepared it.

my wife is 1/4 Basque. We’ve embraced the culture. Except the lamb. Try as we might, we don’t care for it.

Give me good ‘ol American corn fed beef.
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I go for grass fed where I can.

Lamb can be (ok is) fatty but we’ve all been raised on it. A roast lamb leg “baked dinner” was something to look forward to growing up.

So, I was watching NCIS, LA tonight. In the background of an interior shot(Deeks and Kensi's house, FWIW)there was a beautiful ebony NR Firebird.

I’ll have to look out for it. I assume you are a week or two ahead of us.
 
I'm not a cook, nor do I play one on TV, but have you ever tried marinating it over night? Sounds scrumptious btw.
TBH I’m never that organised - I tend to buy it in the morning and get it ready, rest it in the fridge in the marinade and have it or lunch (sometimes) 2 hours later, or for dinner later same day.
 
And how much close is the sound of the Classic Pro to the real deal Gibson? They have the same pickups as I can tell. And the specs? Are they the same?
Two birds. One (the standart bolt on neck) in regular tuning and other (the Classic Pro) in Drop C. If they sound right it will be my to go bass for this band I have.

I love the neck and how confortable I can play with my small hands. So I think I found my thing.
15 years ago I had a Goth Epi Thunderbird. I regret selling it. But now I have again a 2012 Epi Thunderbird standard.
There are three holy grails in the sub $1200 Tbird line up. And any of the three will do what you’re asking, but one will do it in spades. The three are:

1) Epiphone CP - it is a modern Gibson Thunderbird by every measure, in standard tuning it will lay back in the mix a bit more than the other two but is absolutely no slouch. It can be a bit darker in overall tone than the VP. If you are patient you can find mismarked CPs on the used market priced at regular Eppi Tbird prices for a steal but the more common price is up around $800.

2) Epiphone VP - it is very near a vintage 1960’s Gibson Thunderbird in sound and general looks, in standard tuning it will be a bit more aggressive sounding than the CP and should sit more forward in the mix. It can have a bit more grind and growl than the CP. The white VP is very much in demand on the used market so expect to pay a couple hundred dollar premium for it over a black or stained VP, which usually run about $600 on the used market. If it comes with a case it’s a big plus, very very few after market cases are big enough to hold a VP.

3) Greco IV - it is very much a unique monster, neither classic or modern, but a full on balls to the wall hard rocker. Think of it as the demon child of a P bass and a Tbird but possessed and on steroids. Fantastically deep and rich on the bottom end yet still articulate and detailed on the top end all while blasting out volume levels that make the other two basses above blush. The neck is a bit chunkier than the other two but not to P bass levels. It’s a Japanese copy of the Gibson Tbird but varies a bit in construction details. Good deals on these are getting harder to find but basically any all original player condition Greco Tbird under $1200 is a good deal. Important note: the magic of this beast is in the pickups (and the placement of the pickups) if the pickups aren’t original don’t waste your time looking at it.

Personally the order I’d consider these three options is Greco as first choice (extra credit for a late 1970’s model), CP as second choice (extra credit for a 2013 model), VP as third choice (extra credit for an early release pre September model). And any of them in white as first color preference.
 
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I attended a lecture by a famous cycling coach in the '90s who when asked why velodromes always were ridden/raced counter-clockwise said that it was easier for humans to turn left because our heart was on our left side. Always wondered if that was based in fact...

When I try to write left handed - it's not 'neat' but it's backwards. :wacky:

most people are right legged, thus approach the bike from the left, and at stops have their left foot on the ground and right on the pedal by default. I suspect this has more to do with it. Especially since most hearts are basically in the middle (safely behind the sternum), only slightly to the left.



My first thought was, that it was for the same reason NASCAR-types drive mostly-left in mostly-circles - because that's the way horse races are done (in the US.....), and horse tracks were what was used early on before dedicated tracks were built for many racing sports, and they just kept things that way with the new tracks....... :bookworm:
 
My first thought was, that it was for the same reason NASCAR-types drive mostly-left in mostly-circles - because that's the way horse races are done (in the US.....), and horse tracks were what was used early on before dedicated tracks were built for many racing sports, and they just kept things that way with the new tracks....... :bookworm:
Well I’m no help on this one. NSW horse races run clockwise, Victoria horse races run anti clockwise. It is a factor considered when horses make their initial forays into the other State. Evidently some horses struggle with the other way.
 
There are three holy grails in the sub $1200 Tbird line up. And any of the three will do what you’re asking, but one will do it in spades. The three are:

1) Epiphone CP - it is a modern Gibson Thunderbird by every measure, in standard tuning it will lay back in the mix a bit more than the other two but is absolutely no slouch. It can be a bit darker in overall tone than the VP. If you are patient you can find mismarked CPs on the used market priced at regular Eppi Tbird prices for a steal but the more common price is up around $800.

2) Epiphone VP - it is very near a vintage 1960’s Gibson Thunderbird in sound and general looks, in standard tuning it will be a bit more aggressive sounding than the CP and should sit more forward in the mix. It can have a bit more grind and growl than the CP. The white VP is very much in demand on the used market so expect to pay a couple hundred dollar premium for it over a black or stained VP, which usually run about $600 on the used market. If it comes with a case it’s a big plus, very very few after market cases are big enough to hold a VP.

3) Greco IV - it is very much a unique monster, neither classic or modern, but a full on balls to the wall hard rocker. Think of it as the demon child of a P bass and a Tbird but possessed and on steroids. Fantastically deep and rich on the bottom end yet still articulate and detailed on the top end all while blasting out volume levels that make the other two basses above blush. The neck is a bit chunkier than the other two but not to P bass levels. It’s a Japanese copy of the Gibson Tbird but varies a bit in construction details. Good deals on these are getting harder to find but basically any all original player condition Greco Tbird under $1200 is a good deal. Important note: the magic of this beast is in the pickups (and the placement of the pickups) if the pickups aren’t original don’t waste your time looking at it.

Personally the order I’d consider these three options is Greco as first choice, CP as second choice, VP as third choice. And any of them in white as first color preference.

Wasn't there also a CP that had the pickups more in the 60's locations like the VP has? Or am I confusing it with the bolt-on Epiphone Thunderbird?
 
Quick listen, but I would prefer the M77 of the two, but that's just what I would personally want--being more of a "some overdrive" person. But the Ibanez sounds good for a more aggressive sound.

Yeah, I think that the Tube Screamer- like mid range makes the Ibanez sound a bit more aggressive. It's basically a Tube Screamer with "bite" and "bright" pots instead of tone. And aren't as desired as SRV never used one as far as I know.
I should do a comparison between the Bad Monkey, Hardwire CM-2 and the Super Tube next. And gather some Boss guitar OD's from friends for testing. Blues Driver, OD-3, SD-1.
What is the DOD equivalent of the Tube Screamer?