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Genzler 4 On The Floor. It has HP/LPFs. I might try taking some the lows out with that.

With that Genzler, I believe the HPF/LPF only works with the overdriven signal.

I've been using this:

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But now I’m also using this:

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The Broughton cuts the lows 12db, the Sine is more severe at 24db, and adds a 3db recovery gain.

I think the 12db of the Broughton was a little soft, but the 24db/octave filter is a hard cut of whatever is on the low side of the dial. I worked directly with Grant at Sine Effect and have one coming with 18db/octave filter, and retaining the 3db recovery gain.

Also, I like the logic of blocking any frequency under like 35hz which is inaudible to us, but with no HPF, the amp might still being trying to amplify it and the energy is being wasted.

My experience with the Broughton is that it’s a noticeable difference, but the Sine makes it obvious and really tightens up the low end on my AD200/OBC115 setup, especially in my rehearsal space where the room is kinda boomy and I’m competing with two guitars and drums, all in lower than E standard tunings.
 
I never had one, but always liked those. I think it will be a great bass, refinished or not. But a nice project bass.
I’ve tried to tell you all now for years. Add a USA Foundation to the collection. Great neck, excellent build quality, great sounding pickups, and still affordable. Although they are getting more expensive every year. Finds like Dave got for $200 are pretty much nonexistent these days.
 
a jazz bass (pickups and base) is one that I haven’t completely gelled with sound wise, more tolerated than anything else, I have a similar feeling toward the split pbass pickup as well but I like it more than the jazzy ones.

single coil pbass pickups are one of my favorites though.

my maxon equipped 1975 Ibanez is likely my best sounding bass, followed by my 2013 EB and my 1966 KB-1, ALL others are merely tolerated….
I’m glad I’m not the only one who isn’t a J bass guy.
 
I’m glad I’m not the only one who isn’t a J bass guy.

My first Fender bass was a 2011 American Jazz in Candy Cola Red and she’s a real beauty who sounds phenomenal- but it’s that narrow neck close to the nut that’s a bit difficult too deal with. Nevertheless I’ll hang onto her given that she’s pretty cool otherwise-
 
Thanks, Jeff. Excellent suggestion. I've tried that, but not recently, and it didn't seem to to take the boom out and thicken everything up. That said, I will try that again. You're comment got me to thinking about the Genzler 4 On The Floor. It has HP/LPFs. I might try taking some the lows out with that. I Didn't have that when I got the bass and was trying various things.
The HPF will make a difference. I’m kinda surprised you haven’t tried that yet. I didn’t realize just how much a HPF can help until I got the Mesa with the built in Variable HPF. That is a reason Andy and Jeff included the filters in the 4 On the Floor.