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That’s the thing. He would not have gotten in had we been here. Over the last few years, they have become smart enough to know when someone isn’t present. We do all the stuff we’re told to do. We don’t have any attractants. A house with no one home means there is an unguarded fridge/freezer. Even if there isn’t much in it, like ours. The problem is that there are idiots who feed them. Some are residents. Some are weekend Air B&Bers. There was a CDFW policy change in ‘22 that essentially maintains a hands off approach now. Prior to that, problem bears and the idiots were dealt with. That is no longer the case. Big Bear is facing the same problem. And it isn’t just mountain communities. Suburban communities like Sierra Madre and Pasadena are also having issues.
Marshall, you need to be creative to solve the problem. Just get the home address of everyone on city council and the mayor. Then invite all your neighbors to join you in a pork chop challenge. See who can hide the most pork chops in the most creative places at each city council members and the mayors residence. Once the bears become a problem at their houses I’m sure laws will be changed to deal with the unsafe situation. ;)

FWIW - when I was in Jr High school I lived in the Colorado mountains about 25 miles outside of Boulder at about an 8000 foot elevation. Our house bordered on the Rosevelt National Forrest which was considered a relocation refuge for “problem” bears from Yellowstone Park. So we would occasionally get some darn big bears wandering into our yard that were not at all afraid of people or pets. The policy back then (early 1970’s) was to just clean up any outdoor mess the bears may have made with thrash cans, but if the bear was attempting to enter the house (these big ones could easily break down a normal house front door) home owners were authorized to shoot to kill and then immediately call law enforcement or the game warden. Never got to that at our house fortunately, but one of our neighbors had to take the shot at their house. I feel your pain.
 
Too many beers always make me far more charming than I was before the beers. Funny how that works.
Our guitarist Paul, from Iowa City Iowa (a fellow midwesterner) is a naturally funny guy/has a good sense of humor. More well-timed dry humor. He has been 'clean' (no alcohol) for about 8yrs now I think. Back when he would drink, he was a comedian - really funny. I knew another guy back in art-school days who was like that. Makes me understand comedians better.
 
I played that one at the 2023 GTG, it Rocks!
How much weight on just the body would you guess you shed with all the routing?
I never weighed it before removing wood, but probably 1/2 lb lighter. Mahogany like all woods can vary in weight. I hear of T-birds weighing close to 8lbs but most are heavier. My '64 II is 9lbs/9oz, my heaviest bass. 9lbs is my top-weight cut-off but I made a special exception for the '64. ;) Most of my basses are either side of 8lbs.
 
I never weighed it before removing wood, but probably 1/2 lb lighter. Mahogany like all woods can vary in weight. I hear of T-birds weighing close to 8lbs but most are heavier. My '64 II is 9lbs/9oz, my heaviest bass. 9lbs is my top-weight cut-off but I made a special exception for the '64. ;) Most of my basses are either side of 8lbs.
The 67NR comes in at~8.5# with strap and tuner, which stay on by my choice. The Epi Embassy is ~6.5#, again with strap and tuner.(each bass has a dedicated strap and tuner that stay on). Weights determined by extremely accurate :rollno:bathroom scale. Other three (LPB2/5, EB-0, Ibanez) weigh more-or less. I'm too lazy to check right now. :smug:
 
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@Engle
As promised - a comparison heel shot between my Blue BaCH (light weight bass, with belly cut and forearm contour) and my white BaCH (heavy bass, with belly cut only). The neck shape and thickness near the heel and the heel joint to the body is significantly different between the two basses. I don’t know which one is what generation, maybe @MCF or others can chime in with that info.
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Thanks for taking the time to post this George. Mine is similar to the blue one, with the thinner neck heel. It doesn't have the forearm bevel, but I'll be adding that, and probably thinning the body a bit.
 
So it looks like Bad Lemon and TSC will be sharing the day of music at Winters' Tavern on Fog Fest Sunday, Sept 29th. I'm managing the day of 8 bands starting at noon on the outside stage and on-the-hr inside and outside. TSC will play the outside stage at 4pm. Weather is predicted to be in the '70s. Pacific Coast Fog Fest - Fog Fest Fog Fest is a very big deal in Pacifica starting with a parade Sat morning, multiple stages on the main street (Palmetto), art, food, clothing, jewelry, cars etc. My Pacifica artist/musician friend Aaron did the cool poster artwork - he and his wife are both leaders of cool original music bands. FF attracts hundreds of people over the weekend and Winters' being a block from the festival street is a major part of it.

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It seems I’ve landed in the/a theatre district of Paris.
Just a block or two behind my hotel
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I thought this was an ad for a play, a movie or a band. “Stop Aux Rats!”
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Yesterday came back via the beautiful Parc Luxembourg…
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Found a little orchestra playing as well as a large number of people wandering around in 18th or 19th Century garb.
The orchestra was fun, they played an elephant walk kinda thing and the two tuba players at the back were stomping along (on the spot) while they were playing. Good fun.
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But remember, Geoff loves Paris

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Who doesn't? We sure do!
 
That’s the thing. He would not have gotten in had we been here. Over the last few years, they have become smart enough to know when someone isn’t present. We do all the stuff we’re told to do. We don’t have any attractants. A house with no one home means there is an unguarded fridge/freezer. Even if there isn’t much in it, like ours. The problem is that there are idiots who feed them. Some are residents. Some are weekend Air B&Bers. There was a CDFW policy change in ‘22 that essentially maintains a hands off approach now. Prior to that, problem bears and the idiots were dealt with. That is no longer the case. Big Bear is facing the same problem. And it isn’t just mountain communities. Suburban communities like Sierra Madre and Pasadena are also having issues.
Remember:
It’s a long long way to Pasadena
Ooh It’s such a long, long way to Pasadena

Where the dirt track meets the highway
And there aint no time at all
Just a world movin’ forward
On a big black motored crawl

Re bears, would a ‘simple’ noise like that of an old style camera taking a shot, motion detection activated, cause them to move along?
 
Remember:
It’s a long long way to Pasadena
Ooh It’s such a long, long way to Pasadena

Where the dirt track meets the highway
And there aint no time at all
Just a world movin’ forward
On a big black motored crawl

Re bears, would a ‘simple’ noise like that of an old style camera taking a shot, motion detection activated, cause them to move along?
Now it's a mighty long way down the dusty trail
And the sun burns hot on the cold steel rails
'n I look like a bear 'n I crawl like a snail
All the way to Pasadena
 
Remember:
It’s a long long way to Pasadena
Ooh It’s such a long, long way to Pasadena

Where the dirt track meets the highway
And there aint no time at all
Just a world movin’ forward
On a big black motored crawl

Re bears, would a ‘simple’ noise like that of an old style camera taking a shot, motion detection activated, cause them to move along?
Re the noise generators. Yes, they help. But the bears become desensitized and learn it’s all bluster. Our problem is that about fifteen or so in the area aren’t fazed by much of anything. They get hazed away, but just come back when no one is there. I’m cleaning everything with bleach and boiling water so others don’t pick up the first bears’s scent and follow thinking the can find a meal.
 
Re the noise generators. Yes, they help. But the bears become desensitized and learn it’s all bluster. Our problem is that about fifteen or so in the area aren’t fazed by much of anything. They get hazed away, but just come back when no one is there. I’m cleaning everything with bleach and boiling water so others don’t pick up the first bears’s scent and follow thinking the can find a meal.
Spike matts in front of all ground floor doors and windows.
 
Marshall, you need to be creative to solve the problem. Just get the home address of everyone on city council and the mayor. Then invite all your neighbors to join you in a pork chop challenge. See who can hide the most pork chops in the most creative places at each city council members and the mayors residence. Once the bears become a problem at their houses I’m sure laws will be changed to deal with the unsafe situation. ;)

FWIW - when I was in Jr High school I lived in the Colorado mountains about 25 miles outside of Boulder at about an 8000 foot elevation. Our house bordered on the Rosevelt National Forrest which was considered a relocation refuge for “problem” bears from Yellowstone Park. So we would occasionally get some darn big bears wandering into our yard that were not at all afraid of people or pets. The policy back then (early 1970’s) was to just clean up any outdoor mess the bears may have made with thrash cans, but if the bear was attempting to enter the house (these big ones could easily break down a normal house front door) home owners were authorized to shoot to kill and then immediately call law enforcement or the game warden. Never got to that at our house fortunately, but one of our neighbors had to take the shot at their house. I feel your pain.
We have an ineffective homeowners association. Otherwise, we’re in the County’s (talk about inept), the CDFW, and the Forrest Service’s jurisdiction. CDFW will euthanize a problem bear, so long as it has evidence justifying it. But it takes a lot of evidence to get them to trap and remove one.

There is a process to obtain an extermination permit. I don’t believe anyone here who has tried has been able to obtain one this year. There is a faction of folks here who would just as soon kill a person who shoots a bear than harm a bear.