That's one of the few pics of that bass that's actually safe to post here!
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Thunderbird Club
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- Jun 30, 2010
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We were talking about that famous Canadian band from the UK the other day, Heart. @the harp unstrung posted this in the Music Match thread earlier, brilliant, lifted my day beyond belief
A tough nut to crack - and they nailed it. Our band tried it much to our drummers dismay (and he's good) and there were moments, but we never got it straight through. If you play this live - you better play the @*#% out of it or people will leave.
Since the first time I heard it, I've been trying to figure out the time signature. I have given up.
There's an earlier one? Got a link?
Time well spent. Need a better workout? Try Panic in Detroit.
Pro V update:
The more I get this sorted, the more I like it- even if it's a very different sound.
The string spacing issue (B string much closer to edge than the D is)? The fershlugginer nut isn't glued down, and had pushed to one side- probably in shipping since the strings had been properly loosened.
I pulled the neck pickup higher on the bass side, and got much more even output. I can now hear the B string just fine with neck p/u only and the treble rolled off.
Now the problem is the bridge p/u. It was lower than the neck! When I started backing the screws out, the D side is flopping a bit, and it's not as high as the neck p/u yet. Do these not have springs under them?
I'm trying to get things figured out AMAP before I get new strings, because I'm hoping to just take things apart once.
Finish-wise, a few drops of something spilled onto this body (the "natural" oil finish). Not quite sticky, but you can see and feel them. What's the best way to clean and care for the finish? My original plan if I won the auction was to paint this, but it's much prettier in reality than its ebay pics.
The more I get this sorted, the more I like it- even if it's a very different sound.
The string spacing issue (B string much closer to edge than the D is)? The fershlugginer nut isn't glued down, and had pushed to one side- probably in shipping since the strings had been properly loosened.
I pulled the neck pickup higher on the bass side, and got much more even output. I can now hear the B string just fine with neck p/u only and the treble rolled off.
Now the problem is the bridge p/u. It was lower than the neck! When I started backing the screws out, the D side is flopping a bit, and it's not as high as the neck p/u yet. Do these not have springs under them?
I'm trying to get things figured out AMAP before I get new strings, because I'm hoping to just take things apart once.
Finish-wise, a few drops of something spilled onto this body (the "natural" oil finish). Not quite sticky, but you can see and feel them. What's the best way to clean and care for the finish? My original plan if I won the auction was to paint this, but it's much prettier in reality than its ebay pics.
Haven’t heard that one in forever. I’ll have to pull the album out of the toxic waste dump and give it a spin. Good time crusin’ song back in the day.
iPad hiccups. Sorry..
That is beautiful. I believe I have seen it on some of the Aussie shows I’ve watched.
- Jun 30, 2010
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Since the first time I heard it, I've been trying to figure out the time signature. I have given up.
That and the fluidness of the song done right - it downright swings and if you don't feel it, you're not doing it right!
Don't know a link. You tube: Turbo Encabulator.
I guess it's my formal training. I wanna know the time. I don't need it to be able to play it, I just wanna Know!<EDIT> We don't play it-too hip for our crowd, I'm just curious.
But why isn't it safe for work? <confused look>
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Oh, sorry.., didn't know you wanted the specifics - I'm a self taught listener so I always focus on trying to nail the feel over the numbers... but there's many ways to get to the same place and they are all equal as long as is leaves you in the same place!
"The basic melodic and chordal material in "Kashmir" is in 3/4 (or 6/8) time, yet Bonham's relentless drum beat is in straight 4/4...Additionally, the song has sections in full 4/4 which provide a stabilizing counterpoint."
So, after all this time , I googled the sheet music. It appears to be in 3, but in 2 bar phrases so it feels like 6. Then the "confounded bridge" is in 4. Sheeeesh!Since the first time I heard it, I've been trying to figure out the time signature. I have given up.
We was typing at the same time.Oh, sorry.., didn't know you wanted the specifics - I'm a self taught listener so I always focus on trying to nail the feel over the numbers... but there's many ways to get to the same place and they are all equal as long as is leaves you in the same place!
"The basic melodic and chordal material in "Kashmir" is in 3/4 (or 6/8) time, yet Bonham's relentless drum beat is in straight 4/4...Additionally, the song has sections in full 4/4 which provide a stabilizing counterpoint."
- Jun 30, 2010
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So, after all this time , I googled the sheet music. It appears to be in 3, but in 2 bar phrases so it feels like 6. Then the "confounded bridge" is in 4. Sheeeesh!
That's why it's so powerful!
I often wondered, listening to it, if they ever said "let's see the cover bands do this one.That's why it's so powerful!
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We was typing at the same time.
Hah! I loved playing it - when it works you get sucked into it ... it takes everyone in the bands full commitment playing it - that's why is such a hard song to play right. I mean, this was Zep at their peak -
