Thunderbird Club

[dagrev]

Where's the trust???

I think it happened. But I'm not sure we're even here.....

 

[Engle]

It isn't just the music business.

In my industry, things can not work for reasons far beyond your control. Everyone I know who is successful has suffered at least one failure (and some of them many), but all kept working. Working very hard. Sometimes for no pay. Sometimes for an extended period.

All of the over-night successes I have seen have been many years in the making. Toiling away in obscurity until everything comes together.

And based on a limited sample, I believe this to be true of most industries because I have never seen a counter example.

I guess I’ve seen far more examples of really talented people that never made much money in the music business.
I failed as a business owner in my industry. I was fortunate to come out of it with my ass(ets) intact, realized being the boss is not for me, and moved on.

 

[Engle]

I'm off to Pt. Angeles a day early, we have NYE out there...….Back later today.

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Have a great gig!

 

[Engle]

Ya never know.

You don’t know, but at this point in life I can make a pretty good guess

 

[dagrev]

How does the tension on the LTFs compare to roundwounds like RS66s? I would love to be able to swap strings between flats and rounds on some basses without having to tweak the trussrod.

It's been a while since I've played the RS66s. I have a light set of RS nickles and I would say about the same. On this VP I've generally tried lights to med strings with no need to do any adjusting so far. The neck seems pretty stable. I know tension (correction- stiffness) and lbs of pull are different, but from the feel of these, I can't imagine needing to do any adjusting on this bass. Going from a stout med or heavy set of something may be another story. They feel like med-med lights and don't feel like TIs and have more pull than the TIs as well. All that to say I don't think a stable neck that not super prone to moving anyway would need any truss rod work. But it all depends on a few other factors. In reality, that's a long, "I don't really know"!

 

[Miles_ONeal]

There is nothing wrong with the 3 point bridge. But I like the Hipshot bridge enough that I have them on all my Gibson/Epiphone basses that they will fit on.

Not enough space for longer silks on the 3p.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

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I recall him posting that to MySpace.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Anvil was a good hair-metal band. Lipps continues to play shows as he can.

The documentary is a bit sad, but it points out that in music, at least as important as being competent musicians is sustained hard work, some luck, and being in the right place at the right time. And once on the success pathway, the business decisions are at least as important as the musical decisions. Faltering on business is almost always lethal to the project. There are bands that were as good and never got the opportunity at stardom that Anvil got. Having read a number of music biographies, what strikes me is that it takes a lot of sacrifice, and hard work - ten years or more - to get a whiff of success. The vast majority of people can't conceive of working 7 days a week for little or no pay for 10+ years to have a chance of success.

yeah, there are bands that make it without that, but they are exceedingly rare.

 

[RedVee]

Why is it a controversial subject?

a lot of criticism in reviews

 

[fasterpussycat]

Here's to far less band chaos in 2020.

+1000

 

[Engle]

It's been a while since I've played the RS66s. I have a light set of RS nickles and I would say about the same. On this VP I've generally tried lights to med strings with no need to do any adjusting so far. The neck seems pretty stable. I know tension and lbs of pull are different, but from the feel of these, I can't imagine needing to do any adjusting on this bass. Going from a stout med or heavy set of something may be another story. They feel like med-med lights and don't feel like TIs and have more pull than the TIs as well. All that to say I don't think a stable neck that not super prone to moving anyway would need any truss rod work. But it all depends on a few other factors. In reality, that's a long, "I don't really know"!

On my VP going from RS66 to Cobalt or Fender flats means a truss rod adjustment. It’s normal and not a big deal - that why there is an adjustable truss rod.
From what I’ve gathered, the LTFs are actually lower tension than a RS66 45-105. I may try the extra light set of DTFs.

 

[Engle]

Here's to far less band chaos in 2020.

For us all, but especially @fasterpussycat !

 

[MCF]

Baja RULES...really tempted to call in sick for tomorrow’s New Year’s gig at Pebble.....
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One of the perks of going to UC Irvine in the seventies was the reletively quick drive down to Ensada for the bars where no one knew what underage drinking was and the uncrowded beaches. Good times.

 

[fasterpussycat]

For us all, but especially @fasterpussycat !

Mate, the year finished with a thermonuclear implosion on that front.

No more weirdos (well, apart from here in TBC).

 

[GBassNorth]

Ok @PillO
I'm off to the liquor store to top up the bar at home. I'll give Hendricks another try. Didn't like it at all with a lime. I think you mentioned it's better with a cucumber slice and tonic water, is that correct?

 

[MCF]

Anvil was a good hair-metal band. Lipps continues to play shows as he can.

The documentary is a bit sad, but it points out that in music, at least as important as being competent musicians is sustained hard work, some luck, and being in the right place at the right time. And once on the success pathway, the business decisions are at least as important as the musical decisions. Faltering on business is almost always lethal to the project. There are bands that were as good and never got the opportunity at stardom that Anvil got. Having read a number of music biographies, what strikes me is that it takes a lot of sacrifice, and hard work - ten years or more - to get a whiff of success. The vast majority of people can't conceive of working 7 days a week for little or no pay for 10+ years to have a chance of success.

I’m tempted to chime in, but all I can think about is the sadness that was Big Star. Tremendous talents. So much promise. One of the greatest bands the general public never heard of.

 

[RedVee]

I do whatever I can to avoid "Buster Brown", shipping or receiving.

Buster Brown ?

 

[MCF]

Buster Brown ?

Good one! Had to look it up to realize that was Rose Tattoo’s Gary Anderson. Also had to look up when you all got color TV as that was obviously not from the sixties. Ha, 1975!

 

[GIBrat51]

How does the tension on the LTFs compare to roundwounds like RS66s? I would love to be able to swap strings between flats and rounds on some basses without having to tweak the trussrod.

I seriously doubt that the LTF's tension would be higher than the RS66's. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that the tension would be lower. While they aren't as 'noodly" feeling as TI Jazz Flats, at 136 lbs total tension, the LTFs actually have about 6 lbs. less tension than the TIs do. I have them on this '73 4001 for that very reason; the Rick is starting to develop the Negative Neck Angle problem that plagues these old 4001's. So, the lower the tension, the better. But, they do sound very good on the old thing; and fer sure don't feel like low tension strings... But, the only way to know for sure if you could swap strings without a truss rod adjustment, would be to try it, and see...

 

[RedVee]

Good one! Had to look it up to realize that was Rose Tattoo’s Gary Anderson. Also had to look up when you all got color TV as that was obviously not from the sixties. Ha, 1975!

And for extra points the drummer is Phil Rudd pre- AC/DC