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Washington Redskins name

#81
Funky Ghost said:
It does though MT. The original case, which was found lacking enough evidence of tacit insult with the name to carry on, was later taken up by a social worker (red flag) and kids (red flag) were used to re open the case. Since then the PC element has run with it making it a hot topic. If you care a poo to look at the real driving force you would see it is, indeed, a very direct result of widely active PC elements. The generalism you accuse me of is on purpose. There are strict rules to this forum. Dig a little, give a poo and find the engine that drives that vehicle.

Then we can discuss. Hopefully in a more respectful tone.
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Ah now we're getting somewhere. I will respond to this since it is relevant to the case. It has gained momentum thanks to kids, yes, and that is what's giving these folks the power they need to get the name change done. It wasn't working before because the lady was "too old to represent the feelings of current Americans" or some such. However this is irrelevant; you can get behind the fact that you find the "PC machine" distasteful to blow right by the people who have actually been affected by the name. Do Native people actually find the term offensive? Apparently some of them do. How many? Which tribes? I don't know for sure. I've stayed out of this whole debate for about as long as I've been alive because I'm not one of them. One thing that is certain is that the name "Redskins" was born purely of racism. And if enough Native people say it should be changed, then it should be changed
 
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#82
Funky Ghost said:
I still need to have my first cup of coffee and I've stepped off the deep end in this conversation :D


Yep, that's me. PC, yo.
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No you're not PC, but the similarities are there. The intolerance of the other side, over the top dramatics with the whole "bane of civilization " thing. "There's a war on intolerance" says one side, "No it's hunting season on PC" says the other. Two sides of the same thing. That's what I meant.
 
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macaroni tony said:
I will respond to this since it is relevant to the case. Do Native people actually find the term offensive? Apparently some of them do. How many? Which tribes? I don't know for sure. I've stayed out of this whole debate for about as long as I've been alive because I'm not one of them. One thing that is certain is that the name "Redskins" was born purely of racism. And if enough Native people say it should be changed, then it should be changed
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Well stated Tony. It's like the terms Oriental and Asian, both are racist terms commonly in use. Japanese, Chinese, Philipino, Korean, Vietnamese, are usually thrown into the "Asian" (used to be Oriental) category because people most times don't look beyond the initial impression based on certain physical characteristics.
As for Daniel Snyder, he could rename them the Washington Braves and keep their iconic trademark and give some dignity that many see as lacking in the name Redskins. After all in the midst of increasing urban violence the Baltimore Bullets changed their name to the Washington Wizards which image wise appealed to season ticket holders and seemingly also decreased crime on the streets.
 
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#86
i hate the 'Skins!!!

interesting,.. i think i subconsciously call them the Skin's out of sympathy because of my own background. as far as being born in North America,.. alot of us have Native American blood in our veins and are rightfully oblivious!

carry on!
 
#95
pacojas said:
i hate the 'Skins!!!

interesting,.. i think i subconsciously call them the Skin's out of sympathy because of my own background. as far as being born in North America,.. alot of us have Native American blood in our veins and are rightfully oblivious!

carry on!
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Yes, no matter what they call themselves, the team out of Washington playing in the NFC EAST must be destroyed.
 
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#96
Turock said:
Who is being hurt by the name, and in what way?
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Turock said:
So... Who is being hurt by the name, and in what way?
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#100
hdracer said:
NO
The Lakota were the main tribe made up of Lakota, Dakota,Mandan,Hidatsa
The white man labeled them all Sioux.
That is why the Lakota people fought the University of North Dakota to change their name from The Fighting Sioux.
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I need to learn more, but these folks see it different: http://indians.org/articles/sioux-indians.html

I'll admit, I paused reading when I saw "...The name Sioux actually means “little snake”, which was given to the tribe by the Chippewa Indians."

Carry on.
 

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