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why are some fenders made like this

#141
Hey 1shot, if you dig the broke in look I would be happy to trade you my 2000 MIA sunburst Jazz, replete with many knicks, chips, dents, buckle rash, cymbol nicks in nicely aging maple headstock, frets worn and maple fretboard dirty in spots, etc.

FOR:

That silly new looking Pink Jazz you have! ;)
 
#144
Bert Slide said:
Hey 1shot, if you dig the broke in look I would be happy to trade you my 2000 MIA sunburst Jazz, replete with many knicks, chips, dents, buckle rash, cymbol nicks in nicely aging maple headstock, frets worn and maple fretboard dirty in spots, etc.

FOR:

That silly new looking Pink Jazz you have! ;)
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I don't believe I've said one way or the other if I like them or not, just trying to play devils advocate here.

However if you must know, I would gladly own a brand new bass, a reliced bass, a vintage bass, or a poser bass.

There all just basses to me.

So no I wouldn't want you to have a bass with such checking in the finish.
However I have a virtually Unplayed Classic Vibe 60's Jazz almost exactly like that silly pink one I'd gladly swap for your MIA Jazz.
I'll even throw in a Classic Vibe P Bass too in Sonic Blue.
Now thats a trade two for the price of one, how can you possibly let this pass you up.
 
#145
I'd like to add my 2 cents here, trying to reflect my personal perspective.
In my opinion, you might also turn the debate about wether a reliced instrument has just another type of finish around - to look within what you as a player want and like.
First of all: Of course, I think that you can and should buy whatever you like. So if you like a reliced, new instrument, it's perfectly fine.
I played a 80's MIJ Jazz bass for a while, it was well worn and a joy to play. And it made me think about how much more fun it would be to play an instrument that got worn in by myself, just like these old blue jeans that fit so well or a pair of shoes that have gotten used to staying on my feet. But having too many pairs of shoes or trousers gets in the way.... I am getting older (I'm almost 43) and there will not enough lifetime left to put that good kind of wear on many basses, especially as an amateurish player with a day job.
So I came to the conclusion that I need to do two things: First - find the bass that I decide to keep as my main player. And second: get rid of other basses. Now I have a 4-string Sadowsky JJ; a 4-string P/J Sadowsky as backup bass and for the blues-rock gigs, and purely for sentimental reasons my first bass, a Yamaha BB404 that I defretted myself. Got rid of the five-string, got rid of a couple of other basses. They were not supposed to become "the one".
The idea to concentrate on my main instrument and to learn its characteristics inside-out became very appealing to me. Every scratch and ding will have its own story, and some time in the future, all the hours of playing time will start to show. I don't think that I would like to speed this process by any kind of "relicing" applied to the finish - I will just let time and playing time take it's toll. In some years there will be fret leveling necessary, in some more years a refret, the finish will get worn from the back of the neck. And it will get worn by my hands - which is a thing that I can not buy.
I don't care if people see my bass and think "he must be an inexperienced player, because his axe looks new". First of all: They don't think like that. Second: they would be right - I am indeed not a really seasoned player. And third: I think that it gives me good karma to decide to be happy with this very good instrument and to stick to it.
It took me quite a while, and I went through a couple of instruments that came and had to go again. But now I think that the idea of making an individual instrument part of my musicianship combines nicely with my liking of well-worn instruments as well with a strategy to cure G.A.S....

Again: Nothing wrong with buying reliced basses. These were just my personal thoughts on the topic.
 
#146
1SHOT1HIT said:
So no I wouldn't want you to have a bass with such checking in the finish.
However I have a virtually Unplayed Classic Vibe 60's Jazz almost exactly like that silly pink one I'd gladly swap for your MIA Jazz.
I'll even throw in a Classic Vibe P Bass too in Sonic Blue.
Now thats a trade two for the price of one, how can you possibly let this pass you up.
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No thanks, she's an old friend now, had since new, my first really good bass and a reliable workhorse. I just can't trade a faithful bird in the hand for two CV's in the bush. :D

... but I would of course kick her to the curb for a Pink Lady with a checkered past!;)
 
#147
You either get it or you don't. I get it but i don't think I would actually buy one. I would rather buy a new bass, refinish it super thin, and have me ware it out. Two coats of primer and 3-4 coats of solid paint with 1 clear coat, in a week it will look to be older than my dad.
 
#148
Bert Slide said:
No thanks, she's an old friend now, had since new, my first really good bass and a reliable workhorse. I just can't trade a faithful bird in the hand for two CV's in the bush. :D

... but I would of course kick her to the curb for a Pink Lady with a checkered past!;)
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Lol, well played
 
#149
MIMJAZZ said:
You either get it or you don't. I get it but i don't think I would actually buy one. I would rather buy a new bass, refinish it super thin, and have me ware it out. Two coats of primer and 3-4 coats of solid paint with 1 clear coat, in a week it will look to be older than my dad.
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Not saying anything about you one way or the other, just using your method of achieving the wear and tear.

Is this not still just a quick fake way to make a bass look like its been well played for 3-4 decades?
 
#151
Why not just do it yourself? This is my '77 jazz bass body that I rescued from someone that did a bad strip and paint job on. I literally burned off the old finish....
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#152
1SHOT1HIT said:
Not saying anything about you one way or the other, just using your method of achieving the wear and tear.

Is this not still just a quick fake way to make a bass look like its been well played for 3-4 decades?
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thats what im doing. i dont consider it a fake way to achive old school wear. with the way most basses are finished these days (poly), its really the only way to get that look. plus if you natullay wear into your new finish job, how can that be concidered fake?
 
#157
Ok, wife's calling, didn't read the whole thread.

Here's my take. Heavy Metal, thin ties and black leather pants hit in the 80's with big hair. Then came Stevie Ray Vauhn who didn't play metal, didn't tease out his hair, didn't dress like a woman, and whole bolero ties. The pendulum stopped and begun to swing the other way. People got tired to Poison and Winger and in came the dreaded Kurt Cobaines and the pendulum swung all the way to oblivion for about 10 years. Then, song writers started coming back.

So, in the metal/pop days of the 80's, chrome was OUT! It was bright colors and black hardware only. No headstock on the guitar - even better! The Stevie came along and broke all the rules. People realized he looked like an old pro and wanted his old pro strat.
End of story.
 

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