Did this guy invent tapping on bass? Anyone know who he is?
- By Michedelic
- Technique [BG]
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Why yes, it is. I’ve drooled there many times.If that's the Hollywood Guitar Center, I've been in that room a few times![]()
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Why yes, it is. I’ve drooled there many times.If that's the Hollywood Guitar Center, I've been in that room a few times![]()
Why does that exercise start on the natural 5th of a minor7flat5 chord?
A sound man once told me he adjusts the bass mix by cutting bass and adjusting the highs first. Then he adds mids and lastly bass to the mix. Decades of building (and the above post) confirms that idea. I remember that sliding pickup bass where pups were on rails. Surely that would satisfy one person and with that one bass. But a bass is a combo of many many materials and physics. The most important part about choosing a bass is a full length mirror. Every Guitar store should have one. Ha.Here's an old post of mine from 2018, describing my "rules" of pickup placement:
Most of us established (as in grey-haired) Luthiers have gone through the process of messing with pickup positions. When I got into designing and building my own pickups about 15 years ago, like everyone else, I built a bench mule and spent some time experimenting with moving the pickup up and down the body. The results were underwhelming.
Summary:
Take one particular pickup and mount it right in the middle of the body. Set the bass Tone controls wide open, and the amp's EQ controls all on 5. That's the "natural" sound of that pickup, when used with that combination of strings, the bass frame, and the amp.
Now, if you slide the pickup toward the bridge, the change in the sound is all in the bottom end of the EQ. It's just as if you had reached over to the amp and turned the Bass knob down from 5 to 4 to 3. It's not increasing the Treble, it's moderately cutting down the Bass. That's the only thing that's changing in the overall sound of the rig.
Slide the pickup the other way, toward the neck, and you boost the Bass from 5 to 6 to 7. The Treble stays the same; the Bass end of the curve gets louder.
Sliding the pickup doesn't change whether the pickup is muddy or clear, it just subdues it or exaggerates it. If the pickup, by its internal design, is muddy in the bottom end, then sliding it toward the neck will make the muddiness louder and more obvious. Sliding it toward the bridge will make the muddiness quieter. If the pickup's natural sound is very clear and wide range, sliding it toward the neck will boost a clear bottom end. Toward the bridge, it will reduce the bottom end, but still be very clear.
The point is that most of a pickups' tonal characteristic comes from its internal construction; the size and power of the magnetic field, the geometry of the coils, the size and number of turns of wire, etc., etc. None of that changes when you slide it around on the body. All you are doing is moderately adjusting the bottom end of the overall EQ curve.
There are no real "magic sweet spots" in the pickup position. Unless your definition of Magic Sweet Spot is that "the EQ curve sounds just the way I want it right here" or "right here it sounds just like this other bass". Okay. Pickup position is pretty much a linear adjustment. You can slide the pickup where you want it to get the Treble/Bass balance of the EQ where you want it. After you've settled on one position, you can further adjust the EQ balance by reaching over to the amp and turning the Bass knob up or down.
That's what we builders and manufacturers do. We set the pickup position on the body as a final adjustment of the overall EQ balance, for that particular pickup.
A follow-up post:
I notice that no one has yelled "What about the harmonics?" yet. You know, how pickups have to be placed precisely so you can hear the harmonics!! The magic sweet spot locations.
Guitar players and builders go wacko about Harmonics, because they want that screeching dog-whistle high end ringing while they hold a chord, trying to figure out where to go next with the lead.And some bass players want screeching harmonics too, so they can do solos too.
And by the way, The Screeching Harmonics could be a good band name.
If you want to, you can use measurement and math to locate your pickups precisely at the right spot to maximize the screeching harmonics....for a particular set of notes and chords. Up or down a step, and you get gentler normal harmonics.
Personally, I don't build my basses to have exaggerated harmonics on particular notes. I make my pickups to have a nice clear high end, but not excessive extra-highs. And I make them fairly wide aperture, so the harmonics are picked up more evenly on all notes. Less high spikes with position. That's intentional. My basses have nice harmonics, but they are gentle, more in the background, even up and down the scale.
I'm sorry if I've offended the Screeching Harmonics believers.
Speaking as someone with an Asperger’s/autism diagnosis, and with 2 daughters on the spectrum, I don’t know that I’d worry about callouses, but if it is a problem, gloves could definitely be a solution. I use Musician’s Practice Gloves to deal with neurological issues, and they should definitely make a difference. But I wouldn’t worry about it unless/until it becomes a problem.I have narrowed it down to 3 brands for my step daughter’s first bass. A Sterling by music man(the reason being, I love stingrays), a Squire cv bass(upper end Squire), or Ibanez SR. I have a plan to take her to our local guitar center to try them out. Sadly I have never played a Ibanez SR. The budget is going to be $500. For those with experience with the Sterling brand, how will it compare to a real stingray as far as comfort and string spacing goes? I know Sterling gets a lot of hate with quality control issues. Would a Sterling make someone a good beginner bass? I’m dead set on this bass being a 4 string since I started on a 4 string, but I’m sure a competent teacher could teach a student how to begin on a 5 string. Now the scary part. How many times did we develop calluses on our fretting hand’s fingers when we first started? We overcame it and toughened up. She was diagnosed as autistic when she was in first grade. If they still used the term, you would probably say she has Asperger syndrome. Which is on the milder end of the spectrum. The calluses could cause sensory overload for her and I don’t want her to give up. I will give her encouragement but is their a cheat sheet on how to deal with calluses on your fingers? Maybe a light glove or something? I also suspect I’m mildly autistic but my parents never had me diagnosed or if they did when I was younger they never told me.
Yeah, Greg is there, remember noticing that 30 years ago or better.That reminds me of this funny story: When I was shopping for a flattop steel string acoustic guitar a couple years ago I went into this modest-sized Mom & Pop music store in Tucson AZ and started checking out some Yamaha instruments. I played the first two chords from Allan Holdsworth's "Fred" and I swear every employee in that shop stopped what they were doing and came over to listen. One guy -- who turned out to be the store manager -- said "Them sure is some purty chords!" in a voice that reminded me a bit too much of the movie Deliverance.
Is ^^^that the episode where he also played "Do The Nothing"?
If so, I'm pretty sure you can see a pre-Cars Greg Hawkes playing saxophone in either Martin's, or Flo & Eddie's, band.
Next time I use sarcasm I will note it in my post. (sarcasm)OP's first post of the thread:
"Any suggestions for a light weight bass combo?"
Great suggestion! While it did not solve my intonation issue, one of the strings (the D) sounded less bright than the others before, but balances well now, so was probably twisted up and not resonating like it should have.since your bridge captures the ball ends, preventing them from rotating freely when you wind the string on the tuner, I’m thinking twisted strings. Put the saddle back on. Loosen your strings but keep tension on by pulling up and away from the FB. Now push the ball free of the bridge so any twists can release. Pull the string up and let the ball go back in its slot, and wind the tuner back up. Then set your intonation.
Bridges that capture the ball ends and prevent rotation require more attention to prevent twists. Yuck.
The fanned frets was not as much of an issue though.
The E string had a noticeable authority to it as well!Bought myself an expresso machine for my 60th, about 20 shots in it's basically paid for, now I get great shots at home for pennies each.I quit drinking espresso years ago. No I drink Yorkshire tea. I can get if for seven cents a bag. I often us a bag more than once. That turns out to be 3.5 cents a bag. I enjoy it and it is much less expensive than coffee, especially espresso at Peets or Starbucks.