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AudioKinesis Cabs Part VI...
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That's the CV-12, right? Are you pleased with it so far? What sources have you used it on?
Cool. Those haven't been on my radar, but it's nice to hear some stuff tracked through it. I've been bitten by the mic-building bug recently. We've been A/Bing against some of our best, vintage mics, and the mods/builds perform as well or better. Of course it all depends on matching the sound to the source, but it's been a lot of fun to see how things stack up.
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I'd love to see a thread on the DIY mics. Link Removed
I generally just use my Audix TR-40 reference mic, a small diaphragm condenser. Nor really "pretty", but reasonably accurate for what it cost.
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It's the older TR40, just checked. I bought it for doing RTA work back when I was still playing Sound DeWd. I use a pair of PZM 6Ds a lot for stereo stuff too.
I was able to spend some time last night comparing the Baer ML-112 to the 1203, and then, briefly, to the 1855, as well.
The ML-112 is bigger and deeper in the lows than the 1203, and it really hammers nicely on a low B. Of course, it's a much larger enclosure than the 1203, so no real surprise. The 1203 is a bit more warm/round, and totally keeps up with the larger Baer on the E string (possibly even a tad more full on the E and D strings). The upper mids have a lot of similarities, with the 1203 being a bit more smooth and laid back, and the ML a bit more precise and clear. The treble is a bit more present on the Baer, as well. Both cabs held up very well to getting slammed by my MB Fusion 800 (I was playing an MTD 535). The 1203 gets a tad more warm (in a good way) when really cranked.
Breaking out the 1855, is is more massive and dynamic down low - and also more aggressively articulate - when compared to the ML-112. The ML, in turn, is smoother than the 1855. In fact, the ML-112 in many ways sounded like a midway point between the 1203 and the 1855 in regards to relative smoothness, low end, and aggressiveness of the upper mids/treble region.
Here is a quick iPhone pic showing the relative size of the three cabs:
Re: your nearly 20-month-old post, you think the 1855 has a more aggressive upper midrange than the Baer (considering how people often refer to the Chris Squire or Geddy tone one might achieve using roundwounds through the ML112)?
I'm guessing if a person considered the Baer cabs at times a bit too grindy (mostly mids/upper mids during "ham fisted" digging-in with a bit of pedal overdrive), then the 1855 would stand out in the same way, if not more.
Other things I have read make me think both Hathor cabs might seem more punchy than the ML112.
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Regarding the 1855, I would say yes, though the low frequency characteristics are very different (comparing the ML112 - single or a pair - to the 1855). The 1203 is notably smoother and more balanced than the 1855, IME/IMHO.
Thanks for the feedback. Been using two ML112s for a while, but looking for a single larger cab for bigger stages and dives with no PA.
Kinda wanted to lean away from the aggressive high-mid thing since I don't dig what I get with a nickel-round-strung jazz through an ML112 (very Geddy/Squire with aggressive playing, which doesn't always work for me), but the Baer cabs are perfect for my semi-hollow wearing flatwounds.
The 1855 seems like a great solution regarding weight, size, output, with the pluggable ports and other features (mid chamber side holes) making it extra interesting. I wonder how significantly the mid-smoothing switch reduces that bite.
Ideally I would find a larger cab with a bit more low mid output and reduced high mids relative to the ML112.
This just makes me miss my TC115 AF which I regrettably sold. I will offer that not only did it sound amazing for electric bass, but for upright it was simply astonishing. I had never before realized how much the speaker was effecting the tone of the upright bass. More than the pickup, and amp were. I am sure my new TC112 will do the job, but I will miss the rear firing tweeter.
Looking at getting a cab for upright and would love some double duty stuff... Was leaning towards the Hathor 1203 for electric- enjoy a bit of grind- met up with a few TBers and tried the Baer ML112 and a Hathor 12 and preferred the Hathor's flavor and flexibility... More upright work lately and one group where I'd love to have a cab on stage... Would love to kill two birds and what not...
The new Hathor 1553 has a rear firing 3".. Duke mentions it's design intent it more to mimic open-back guitar cabs, where the TC with the "AF" rear firing 3" was more to mimic the acoustic instrument vibe...
Feel there is any cross over potential in the real world between how to two behave? Or is the Hathor just too flavored for a cleaner jazz gig with upright? Maybe I should go the Nostatic route and rock a TC and Hathor...
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This is the route I am going. I have a 112 already and in a month or two will have a hathor. All bases covered.
Also leaning this way in all likely hood... Also, I fixed it for youAll baSses covered.
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As a heads up to those following this thread, here are links to a mint condition Audiokinesis Thunderchild TC115 that needs a new home.
For Sale - Audiokinesis Thunderchild TC115 composite bass cab
For Sale - Audiokinesis Thunderchild TC115 composite bass cab
For Sale - Audiokinesis Thunderchild TC115 composite bass cab
For Sale - Audiokinesis Thunderchild TC115 composite bass cab
